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Old 09-20-2013, 02:55 PM   #31171
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Even Giant has gotten into the gravel/ADV game. They're usually pretty conservative. Pricing is nuts, though.
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Old 09-20-2013, 03:10 PM   #31172
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Even Giant has gotten into the gravel/ADV game. They're usually pretty conservative. Pricing is nuts, though.
phew, that weird rear dropout geometry puts the rear wheel way up high in the frame, I'd think that would lower the BB such that you'd be in rock-strike hell on a narrow trail. unless its mostly illusion.
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Old 09-20-2013, 03:22 PM   #31173
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Crumpton makes very nice frames. Even the super light ones are not delicate weight weenie parts.

The Spec. Awol and the Giant look like the drop bar MTB i made in the late 80s. It didn't handle as well as a regular flat bar MTB.
They worked for Charlie Cunningham and Jacquie Phelan but not for me.
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Old 09-20-2013, 03:25 PM   #31174
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not sure what the market that is aimed at. 700x42 tires are probably too heavy for cross. it has Sora or SRAM Apex/X9 shifters with road gearing (48-34 compact or 50-39-30 triple). so not really that suitable for heavy touring... cromo frame/forks.

it almost smells like a Karate Monkey/Ogre kinda bike but with a more road build. whack.

looks like fun, tho!
According to 'Bicycle Retailer' gravel bikes are supposed to be the next "next big thing". Not ADV bikes so much as road bikes specifically for gravel roads. I think the manufacturers are jumping on it hoping relatively affluent roadies will want to add another bike to the stable without having to take up an entirely new sport.

Now we can irritate rural drivers too!
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:36 PM   #31175
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hi-LAR-ious!

damn near the funniest thing i've seen here for a while...

different, no doubt, and maybe better for a few,... but 'bents a better bicycle?! ; i'm going to be chuckling on that one for days,... that just cracks me up!

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bents are the better version of the bicycle

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Old 09-20-2013, 05:14 PM   #31176
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I've seen it all.....wait for it.
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:37 PM   #31177
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phew, that weird rear dropout geometry puts the rear wheel way up high in the frame, I'd think that would lower the BB such that you'd be in rock-strike hell on a narrow trail. unless its mostly illusion.
That's an illusion. Draw a line from the rear axle to the BB and you'll see it's a normal relationship. Blue Cycles make TT frames like this, too.
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:57 PM   #31178
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hi-LAR-ious!

damn near the funniest thing i've seen here for a while...

different, no doubt, and maybe better for a few,... but 'bents a better bicycle?! ; i'm going to be chuckling on that one for days,... that just cracks me up!
ooh i haven't gotten started yet


i love the the way bents get cyclist bent out of shape, some take it way too serious.


one down
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:29 PM   #31179
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not sure what the market that is aimed at... 700x42 tires...

looks like fun, tho!

Comfort!! I have 42's on my X01 (aluminum) and I love the ride. I also have a Poprad Disc (steel) and that bike also has one sweet ride. Some day I will replace the 10 lb wheelset with something like an XT/Open Pro set up and widen the rear drop outs for the new hubs.

Trek has had a bike like that for a couple years now called the Crossrip but I'm not sure I like them, they aren't very racy and felt kind of heavy but we sold a bunch of them to rail-trail and back roads tourist. The price point is great for a roadbike with high bars.





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According to 'Bicycle Retailer' gravel bikes are supposed to be the next "next big thing"...
Now we can irritate rural drivers too!
Where I live, we only irritate the Amish horses. My moto's don't scare the horses but they occasionally freak out over the pedal bikes, even when they see you coming for a half mile. The one thing bad about the gravel roads around me are the dogs. On the "English" farms to the southeast of me, the dogs chase because they rarely see a bicycle, but SW of me the Amish Dogs are used to the bicycles since it is their masters secondary mode of transportation.
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:35 PM   #31180
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Some day I will replace the 10 lb wheelset with something like an XT/Open Pro set up and widen the rear drop outs for the new hubs.
Check out the American Classic TCX wheels. 32/32 - 3 cross with their tubeless technology and 22mm internal width. Perfect set-up for gravel grinder rigs and running wider tire combos. They are quite affordable as well. I picked up a set to race 'cross on this year and race the Dirty Kanza next June.
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:08 PM   #31181
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i looked at baccetta when i was buying but didn't like the pedals above the seat angle. went with an actionbent jetstream very similar to the lighting p40 and about 600$ less. 32# it weighs about the same as any metal bent


have fun on the carbon
I haven't weighed mine but advertised, sans pedals, is 21 pounds.

It took me a few miles to get used to the position but then, as I knew would occur, suddenly, I no longer noticed it.
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:13 PM   #31182
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ooh i haven't gotten started yet


i love the the way bents get cyclist bent out of shape, some take it way too serious.


one down
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Old 09-20-2013, 09:14 PM   #31183
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Some of us just try and be polite. But we might hide your little flag just to take the piss.

Promise we'll give it back.
thats what i'm missing the flag
i got the shoes and pedals now i gotta get me a flag

i'll take the comfort of the bent over a df speed and hill climbing ability.

i went to death valley years ago and it was nice to have the view out in front of me with no neck strain etc..lounge chair on wheels.
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Old 09-20-2013, 09:18 PM   #31184
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I haven't weighed mine but advertised, sans pedals, is 21 pounds.

It took me a few miles to get used to the position but then, as I knew would occur, suddenly, I no longer noticed it.
21 is pretty good for a bent
they made a lighter seat for mine now i got to hit up bicycleman and see if i can find it cause actionbent went bye bye a few years ago
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Old 09-20-2013, 09:24 PM   #31185
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I went to Death Valley this year in April and it was nice to have a single cylinder 650 under me.

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