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Old 11-26-2013, 04:37 PM   #31861
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Ah. I think sometimes the internet has too much information. Are clip on pedals/cleated shoes really that beneficial (especially to a n00b)?
depends on the sort of riding you'll be doing. short round town, bike path kind of hybrid riding? probably not, in fact, while you're still getting your bicycle balance, they are pretty hazardous. if you're going to start doing longer road rides, like 25+ miles, in the countryside where you don't have to stop often, they can help quite a lot.

me, I've become a convert to BMX 'pin pedal' style, they hold your feet nearly as securely as clip-on pedals, without needing to clip in. downside, they can shred your shins pretty good if you do crash.
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:55 PM   #31862
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depends on the sort of riding you'll be doing. short round town, bike path kind of hybrid riding? probably not, in fact, while you're still getting your bicycle balance, they are pretty hazardous. if you're going to start doing longer road rides, like 25+ miles, in the countryside where you don't have to stop often, they can help quite a lot.

me, I've become a convert to BMX 'pin pedal' style, they hold your feet nearly as securely as clip-on pedals, without needing to clip in. downside, they can shred your shins pretty good if you do crash.
Bike path + flat roads to start with - so not too many stop signs. For the previous bit - yeah the 7+ different subtle variations of each bike is confusing me - though most responses have been to buy the ne plus ultra version.
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:04 PM   #31863
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Bike path + flat roads to start with - so not too many stop signs. For the previous bit - yeah the 7+ different subtle variations of each bike is confusing me - though most responses have been to buy the ne plus ultra version.
I've got an offbrand ("Globe Vienna") equivalent of the base model Sirrus from a few years ago, and its a great bike for rides of up to maybe 20-25 miles at a relaxed pace, bike paths and such...
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:30 PM   #31864
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I'm having a crisis of motivation right now. I *should* have gotten home, changed, and hopped on the trainer for an hour.

Instead I ate some cereal, and am typing on the computer.

Its ~40deg and very rainy... Great for CX, not so bueno for riding in an unheated garage.

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Old 11-26-2013, 11:09 PM   #31865
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Tell you what... My ride to work feels about 30% harder now. Compound that by the fact that I have put the clipless pedals/shoes away now that it's below freezing and I'm getting a helluva workout!
If you want to continue riding using your cleats and pedals you could try some Lake winter boots like I do.

If it's really cold or you just don't want to be cleated to your bike you could try http://www.mountainracingproducts.com/power-grips/ which can be adjusted to any thickness of footwear.

I've been riding toe clips then clipless for so many years I can't ride w/o them anymore.

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Old 11-27-2013, 06:12 AM   #31866
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Old 11-27-2013, 07:00 AM   #31867
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Ah. I think sometimes the internet has too much information. Are clip on pedals/cleated shoes really that beneficial (especially to a n00b)?
No. Stay away from them, they're just a trip to the emergency room waiting to happen. If you really must try them, practice on a mountain bike first. Dirt is much softer than asphalt and it won't break your femur when you fall.
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Old 11-27-2013, 07:05 AM   #31868
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No. Stay away from them, they're just a trip to the emergency room waiting to happen. If you really must try them, practice on a mountain bike first. Dirt is much softer than asphalt and it won't break your femur when you fall.
Bullshit. I have used them for the past 3 or 4 years (INCLUDING on rollers) and I have fallen exactly once and in my defense, my front tube exploded so I was kinda distracted by that.

As for using them on a mountain bike FIRST ? Even more poppycock - you are more likely to fall riding a mtn bike so clips are even less useful there (for me at least) and really, dirt is softer ? How about roots/rocks etc. ?
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Old 11-27-2013, 07:19 AM   #31869
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Bullshit. I have used them for the past 3 or 4 years (INCLUDING on rollers) and I have fallen exactly once and in my defense, my front tube exploded so I was kinda distracted by that.

As for using them on a mountain bike FIRST ? Even more poppycock - you are more likely to fall riding a mtn bike so clips are even less useful there (for me at least) and really, dirt is softer ? How about roots/rocks etc. ?
How's that hook taste????
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Old 11-27-2013, 07:32 AM   #31870
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How's that hook taste????


No way he trolls...he's way too professional for that....
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Old 11-27-2013, 07:41 AM   #31871
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Old 11-27-2013, 08:00 AM   #31872
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Bullshit. I have used them for the past 3 or 4 years (INCLUDING on rollers) and I have fallen exactly once and in my defense, my front tube exploded so I was kinda distracted by that.
Yah, I've only fallen once too. That was all it took to break my femur. One of the roadies in my group also fell only once. The result? Another hip fracture, but much worse than mine.

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As for using them on a mountain bike FIRST ? Even more poppycock - you are more likely to fall riding a mtn bike so clips are even less useful there (for me at least) and really, dirt is softer ? How about roots/rocks etc. ?
Of course you're more likely to fall while riding a mountain bike. All the more reason to practice clipping in and out on a dirt trail rather than on the road, where the consequences of falling are far more serious. How about roots and rocks? Read what I wrote instead of being deliberately obtuse.
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Old 11-27-2013, 08:19 AM   #31873
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Yah, I've only fallen once too. That was all it took to break my femur. One of the roadies in my group also fell only once. The result? Another hip fracture, but much worse than mine.
Sounds like you guys need to double up on your calcium consumption.

On a more serious note for JoeDuck, get some clip less pedals, set them loose, then ride around a soccer/football practice field and practice doing slow speed figure 8s, while clipping in and out. This should give you a feel for how they work and jump start the muscle memory routine for the process. If you break your hip, blame Aurelius.
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Old 11-27-2013, 08:27 AM   #31874
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Yah, I've only fallen once too. That was all it took to break my femur. One of the roadies in my group also fell only once. The result? Another hip fracture, but much worse than mine.



Of course you're more likely to fall while riding a mountain bike. All the more reason to practice clipping in and out on a dirt trail rather than on the road, where the consequences of falling are far more serious. How about roots and rocks? Read what I wrote instead of being deliberately obtuse.


It's just you then I guess...you just need to learn to un-clip
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Sounds like you guys need to double up on your calcium consumption.
I spent a lot of time researching this type of injury after the operation. It's much more common among cyclists than I would have thought, and the methods usually used to repair it (partial hip replacement, J-brace) cause lasting problems. IIRC, Floyd Landis had a J-brace installed. I was fortunate in that the surgeon who operated on me suggested a riskier procedure, but one which, if successful, would have much better results. It worked.
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