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Old 12-29-2013, 11:24 AM   #32041
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Bike and parts

I have been cycling for 20+ years and the prices of bikes and parts are ridiculous. We had this conversation yesterday and really why is. A mass produced bike made in Tiwann as expensive as they are? I went through the Cannondale factory years ago and it was an impressive place and employed Americans. Of course I ride a Surly and it is made in Tiwan but I only gave 400 for the frame and fork and I really like the bike. How do you guys feel about this?
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:29 AM   #32042
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I have been cycling for 20+ years and the prices of bikes and parts are ridiculous. We had this conversation yesterday and really why is. A mass produced bike made in Tiwann as expensive as they are? I went through the Cannondale factory years ago and it was an impressive place and employed Americans. Of course I ride a Surly and it is made in Tiwan but I only gave 400 for the frame and fork and I really like the bike. How do you guys feel about this?
I ride a surly as well. I've been cycling for 30 years. No reason why a $400 frame and fork can't be made in the USA.... It's just some pipe welded together but they can make them soooo much cheaper in Tiawan.

I don't agree with it but it is a nice quality bike to ride.
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:35 AM   #32043
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I ride a surly as well. I've been cycling for 30 years. No reason why a $400 frame and fork can't be made in the USA.... It's just some pipe welded together but they can make them soooo much cheaper in Tiawan.

I don't agree with it but it is a nice quality bike to ride.
I sold my road bike thinking I wasn't going to ride on the road anymore and then purchased a 20 year old Bianchi. That bike rides as well as the Trek Pilot I used to have and that bike was full carbon.
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Old 12-29-2013, 02:55 PM   #32044
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A friend of mine just picked up a Norco Bigfoot, and I'm afraid I'm going to succumb to peer pressure. Locally there's tons of stuff available, but I think the most likely choices are the Norco, KHS, or Salsa Mukluk 3. I'm leaning towards the Mukluk because it has similar components to the KHS, but has a better fork and alternator dropouts which would allow me to run a 29+ wheelset during the summer if I wanted too, plus I already have a Vaya and I'm partial to Salsa...any thoughts.

http://salsacycles.com/bikes/2014_mukluk_3


http://khsbicycles.com/bikes/2014-khs-models/3000-2-14/


http://www.norco.com/bikes/mountain/fat-bike/bigfoot/
I'm really jonesing one of these rides, especially in my new VT home. I've seen a few dudes up here ripping these in the woods in deep snow, looks like such a blast. Almost considering selling my Reign for one of these fat bikes I can swap out a 2.3 29" tire on for the summer.
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Old 12-29-2013, 07:24 PM   #32045
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Had a good ride Saturday at The Last Dam Century of the Year with the usual gang of idiots. It's funny how the same climbs seem to get longer and steeper with repetition.

With no work or family obligations, the plan is for a long MTB ride or gravel grinder on New Year's Day.

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Old 12-30-2013, 05:39 AM   #32046
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I have been cycling for 20+ years and the prices of bikes and parts are ridiculous. We had this conversation yesterday and really why is. A mass produced bike made in Tiwann as expensive as they are? I went through the Cannondale factory years ago and it was an impressive place and employed Americans. Of course I ride a Surly and it is made in Tiwan but I only gave 400 for the frame and fork and I really like the bike. How do you guys feel about this?
Many of the parts/accessories prices have gotten out of control. Walk into a LBS and they want $50 for a water bottle cage. What happened to the aluminum one that cost $5? $10 for a plain plastic water bottle with the shop logo? WTF? Seat posts and stems are a ripoff too. I buy them from the used take off bin in the back of the shop.
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Old 12-30-2013, 10:17 AM   #32047
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A friend of mine just picked up a Norco Bigfoot, and I'm afraid I'm going to succumb to peer pressure. Locally there's tons of stuff available, but I think the most likely choices are the Norco, KHS, or Salsa Mukluk 3. I'm leaning towards the Mukluk because it has similar components to the KHS, but has a better fork and alternator dropouts which would allow me to run a 29+ wheelset during the summer if I wanted too, plus I already have a Vaya and I'm partial to Salsa...any thoughts.
I don't know much about fat bikes, but Bikes Direct is selling a bike that is supposedly just a rebadged version of that KHS you linked to. The price is about 40% off the list price of the KHS.
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Old 12-30-2013, 01:31 PM   #32048
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Wow. If you are getting hit by bicycles no matter what mode of transportation you are using, you just might be doing it wrong
I seem to have a magnet for them.
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Old 12-30-2013, 04:47 PM   #32049
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Old 12-30-2013, 06:20 PM   #32050
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Many of the parts/accessories prices have gotten out of control. Walk into a LBS and they want $50 for a water bottle cage. What happened to the aluminum one that cost $5? $10 for a plain plastic water bottle with the shop logo? WTF? Seat posts and stems are a ripoff too. I buy them from the used take off bin in the back of the shop.
You know it. A buddy of mine dropped 4k on a Trek Damone. I just don't see spending that much on a bike made in Taiwan.
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Old 12-30-2013, 06:30 PM   #32051
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You know it. A buddy of mine dropped 4k on a Trek Damone. I just don't see spending that much on a bike made in Taiwan.
sure it was made in Taiwan and not China ? Most of the carbon fiber frame factories are in China.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:34 PM   #32052
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In competition test from US masters showed presence of EPO, amphetamine and a steroid


Testing positive for three separate banned products at the US masters’ road national championships on September 6th, the 62 year old amateur David LeDuc has been handed a two year suspension by the US Anti Doping Agency.

LeDuc comes from Willow Springs, North Carolina. He won multiple national masters’ championships in the past, and was also world masters’ champion in 2001. He was tested in an in-competition test carried out at the 2013 nationals.

The analysis of that revealed traces of an exogenous steroid, EPO plus the prohibited stimulant amphetamine.

“Anabolic Androgenic Steroids, rhEPO, and amphetamines are all prohibited under the USADA Protocol for Olympic and Paralympic Movement Testing and the UCI Anti-Doping Rules, both of which have adopted the World Anti-Doping Code (“Code”) and the World Anti-Doping Agency Prohibited List,” said the agency in a statement.

USADA added that LeDuc has accepted the 24 month ban, which began on December 24th of this year. All cycling results from September 6th have also been voided, and medals, points and prizes from that period have been declared forfeit.

The news has led to a strong reaction on social media. LeDuc’s age and amateur status differ from the profile of many cycling positives, although in recent seasons several other masters riders have also tested positive and been banned for doping.

The guy is SIXTY TWO years old. WTF?!


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Old 12-30-2013, 07:38 PM   #32053
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As a counterpoint to the above post

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Old 12-30-2013, 08:17 PM   #32054
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this year I'm going to break 500 miles over last year which was 0

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Old 12-31-2013, 06:07 AM   #32055
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Dood. This is effed up:



The guy is SIXTY TWO years old. WTF?!


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Dave la duc has been around the South east regional area forever!.I've raced against him in several events over the years, back when I raced which was between 84-93 .Strong rider, competitive guy.

I've seen him do (what at the time I thought was amazing )things. Most of the big races we were both in were 2-3 30+ races.

It's sad ,He thinks he has to win that way.
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