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Old 04-21-2009, 09:57 AM   #10501
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Need some pedal advice.

Last year, I bought a used surly instigator. It's a little small for me, (it's a medium, I probably should have a large) but I bought it purely for goofing off - finally learning to control a wheelie, riding onto and off the benchs and picnic tables at the park, maybe some trails if I ever get back into shape.



I think it outweighs me, but it's perfect for my stated purpose.

I don't know what kind of pedals to put on it though. I'm a fan of clipless, but this should get some platform jobs, I think.

Is something like this worth looking at?

Personally I like both the Time and Crank Bros stuff. Very similar in action, weight, etc. Cleats aren't interchangeable IIRC

Remember: you WILL fall. Prolly at a stop when leaning the wrong way. DAMHIK how embarrassing this can be when you do it at a stoplight.

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Old 04-21-2009, 10:14 AM   #10502
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Personally I like both the Time and Crank Bros stuff. Very similar in action, weight, etc. Cleats aren't interchangeable IIRC

Remember: you WILL fall. Prolly at a stop when leaning the wrong way. DAMHIK how embarrassing this can be when you do it at a stoplight.

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I've run clipless for a while. Look on road bikes and SPD on mtn, but I want to try out the platform combos... but I don't know if they suck or not.

(I rode a bike with a first generation set of shimano combos a long time ago, I remember it being sort of tough to clip in with the meaty frame around the pedal.)
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:15 AM   #10503
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I've run clipless for a while. Look on road bikes and SPD on mtn, but I want to try out the platform combos... but I don't know if they suck or not.

(I rode a bike with a first generation set of shimano combos a long time ago, I remember it being sort of tough to clip in with the meaty frame around the pedal.)
SPDs and Crank Bros are different aminals.

Give em a try (ebay's yer friend...)

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Old 04-21-2009, 10:27 AM   #10504
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Is something like this worth looking at?
No.

If you bought it for "just messing around", buy a $15 pair of chunky platforms and learn to do things right (that and probably safer at the same time). Pocket the other $100 you would have spent on those "freeride/downhiller" pedals and buy food for the week.
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Old 04-21-2009, 11:04 AM   #10505
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He is ready for clipless
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:44 PM   #10506
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What the hell are clipless? As in no clips?
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Old 04-21-2009, 01:26 PM   #10507
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What the hell are clipless? As in no clips?
as opposed to vintage 'toe clips', which were the cages with the straps we all used in the 60s/70s,


clipless are pedals that your shoe 'snaps' into, using a small cleat.

Shimano SPD:


Time:


Speedplay:


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Crank Bros' Eggbeaters:


there's probably more. and some of htese come in a platform hybrid where there's a 'regular' pedal surrounding the clip, the theory is you can use regular shoes OR cleated shoes. each of these pedal types requires a different cleat.
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:15 PM   #10508
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Right those are what you have when your clipped in, what are clipless?

I dont know am I being dense? i thought any time you had peddles that would conect your shoe those were toe clips? I thought toe cages were just toe cages, so you were eather clipped in or there was no mechanism to attach your shoe to, a flat peddle.
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:19 PM   #10509
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Right those are what you have when your clipped in, what are clipless?

I dont know am I being dense? i thought any time you had peddles that would conect your shoe those were toe clips? I thought toe cages were just toe cages, so you were eather clipped in or there was no mechanism to attach your shoe to, a flat peddle.
the 'cages' were called toe clips back in the day.



Christophe was the clip brand of choice amongst the fanatics and those Binda laminated leather straps were da kine!
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:35 PM   #10510
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... but wow, just wow ...

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that dood can ride, I hadn't seen that before
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:52 PM   #10511
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Right those are what you have when your clipped in, what are clipless?
Those are clipless. Clip pedals are the toe cages you are talking about.
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Old 04-21-2009, 03:25 PM   #10512
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Those are clipless. Clip pedals are the toe cages you are talking about.
Alright, thanks all for clearing that up.
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Old 04-21-2009, 04:51 PM   #10513
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Alright, thanks all for clearing that up.
LOL I find it confusing. I don't see why the pedals you clip into are called clipless .
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:04 PM   #10514
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because "clipless" pedals do not have "toe clips". I'm sooo glad those days are gone! When they have neither they are called "flats"
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:08 PM   #10515
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LOL I find it confusing. I don't see why the pedals you clip into are called clipless .
because these were called Toe Clips for at least 30 years....


which were used with shoe cleats like...


while the predecessors of the modern clipless pedals were invented quite a long time ago, they didn't really become popular until the late 80s, early 90s.

SPD mountain bike hybrid pedal and shoe with cleat...
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