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Old 04-21-2009, 04:26 PM   #10516
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Old 04-21-2009, 04:55 PM   #10517
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coolest new bike EVAR!!!

Wife called and said one of the couples she works for is selling their house and moving in to an assisted living place, so they told her to take anything she wanted out of the basement before the goodwill truck shows up and get it all. She called me on the way home and told me there was a really good condition bike she loaded up to bring home along with a ton of other , uh, crap.
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:30 PM   #10518
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Wife called and said one of the couples she works for is selling their house and moving in to an assisted living place, so they told her to take anything she wanted out of the basement before the goodwill truck shows up and get it all. She called me on the way home and told me there was a really good condition bike she loaded up to bring home along with a ton of other , uh, crap.
Here's the wife's new bike-



huh. a Schwinn Collegiate, looks to have alloy cotterless cranks, and a lugged steel frame rather than the brazed/welded stuff Schwinn was infamous for, and looks to be a 3-speed internal although I'm not sure if thats a sturmey archer hub

that actually looks like it could make a nice city-bike with a bit of lubrication, cleaning up and some new tires... are those 26 or 27" wheels? I can't quite tell if those are chrome plated steel rims or alloy rims, I'd guess the chrome steel variety. look to be Weinmann style sidepull brakes, workable with careful adjustments. The fenders and fold out baskets are -classic-.

I'm guessing thats an import rather than a domestic schwinn, as I just don't recall classic schwinns with lugged frames. could even be an english frame, especially if it has a sturmey-archer hub.

edit: ahhh. googled up this.
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Around 1983 or 1984, Schwinn began importing a "new" Collegiate from Taiwan. It uses a three piece crank, AND it uses the "industry-standard" 26 inch tires are easily found. (590 mm) It has a lugged steel frame and lugged steel fork with attractive pinstriping to accent the lug work. The combination of lugged frame, modern light-weight parts and high quality workmanship make the "new" Collegiate one of the best three-speed bikes I've seen. It weighs around 34 pounds, including full fenders. Add a rear rack, and you would have a terrific "grocery getter".
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:33 PM   #10519
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New singletrack

The mountain biking trails closest to my home are at Middlesex Fells, about 3 miles away. This is the only trail system close enough for me to easily reach without driving, and so I ride there pretty often. The trails are kinda so-so: The marked 6-mile 'bike loop' has only about 2 miles of singletrack. The remainder is fire roads. There are lots of other trails in the park, but they're off-limits to bikes.

That's about to change, though; There's a trail maintenance event this coming Saturday that I was already planning to volunteer at. I found out a few days ago that this 'trail maintenance' will consist of cutting about 1.5 miles of new singletrack that will replace the dullest mile of fire road on the existing bike loop. So we're going to nearly double the bike-legal singletrack.

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Old 04-21-2009, 05:35 PM   #10520
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huh. a Schwinn Collegiate, looks to have alloy cotterless cranks, and a lugged steel frame rather than the brazed/welded stuff Schwinn was infamous for, and looks to be a 3-speed internal although I'm not sure if thats a sturmey archer hub

that actually looks like it could make a nice city-bike with a bit of lubrication, cleaning up and some new tires... are those 26 or 27" wheels? I can't quite tell if those are chrome plated steel rims or alloy rims, I'd guess the chrome steel variety. look to be Weinmann style sidepull brakes, workable with careful adjustments. The fenders and fold out baskets are -classic-.

I'm guessing thats an import rather than a domestic schwinn, as I just don't recall classic schwinns with lugged frames. could even be an english frame, especially if it has a sturmey-archer hub.

edit: ahhh. googled up this.
I had to go look. Made in Taiwan. Fermco 26" rims. chrome. three speed internal. And a cool flashlight holder on the bars.

edit- I didn't see your edit till I posted it.
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:40 PM   #10521
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I had to go look. Made in Taiwan. Fermco 26" rims. chrome. three speed internal. And a cool flashlight holder on the bars.

edit- I didn't see your edit till I posted it.
then, yeah, pull off all the little rusty bits of hardware like the fender bolts, clean them up with Nevr-Dull


clean the chain and sprockets, lube the chain, clean and wax all the paintwork, some new cables, and she'll look and run like new. some nice 26x1.375 tires and new tubes, and let the ol lady go to town!
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:42 PM   #10522
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ok bicycle people


what would be a good price to drop on this frame?

I pasted the text from the CL ad in my town

would this be a decent frame to build my first road bike?
My inseam is a 32, so I think the frame would work




Specialized XL (58.5cm) Allez bike frame - $150


Specialized XL (58.5cm) Allez frame
Frame, Fork, headset, seatpost binder included.
2005 model, no dents, some light scratches (chain stay), looks great overall.
Less than 2k miles.
Always kept clean, never crashed or raced.
Specialized seatpost (carbon wrap) can be added for $15
Shimano 105 FD (Double, clamp-on) can be added for $15

Please e-mail with questions. Cash only. $150


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Old 04-21-2009, 05:46 PM   #10523
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what would be a good price to drop on this frame?

I pasted the text from the CL ad in my town

would this be a decent frame to build my first road bike?
My inseam is a 32, so I think the frame would work
Just because your inseam is right don't mean it'll fit. Are you 6ft w/a 32 inseam, or 6'4"???

A 58.5 is a BIG bike! For an average proportioned dude, I'd guess no shorter than 6'2". If you're close on that and have $150 (not tooo much to blow), go for it. 05 Allez was a decent frame, that seems a reasonable price.

EDIT: if you take it, demand the two extra bits for free - especially the derailleur which already has the right clamp size. Heck, pay for taht one if you have to, just in case its not a common size anymore.
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:47 PM   #10524
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Just because your inseam is right don't mean it'll fit. Are you 6ft w/a 32 inseam, or 6'4"???

A 58.5 is a BIG bike! For an average proportioned dude, I'd guess no shorter than 6'2". If you're close on that and have $150 (not tooo much to blow), go for it. 05 Allez was a decent frame, that seems a reasonable price.
more like 6'00" with a 32 inseam (according to my tailor)

will I tip over and die or something

I am a new kid at this shit

will a couple of cm make that big a diff?
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:50 PM   #10525
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will a couple of cm make that big a diff?
To your back it will. Most off the shelf bikes tend to be long for the non-racer. You'll either have to put a tiny stem on it, making it handle kinda turd-like, or you'll be cranked over and stretched out as if on a medieval torture device.

Bikes have two important measurements, height and length - everyone always ignores the second one.
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:59 PM   #10526
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To your back it will. Most off the shelf bikes tend to be long for the non-racer. You'll either have to put a tiny stem on it, making it handle kinda turd-like, or you'll be cranked over and stretched out as if on a medieval torture device.

Bikes have two important measurements, height and length - everyone always ignores the second one.
see that there

I am learning stuff

I are a non-racer

the Allez model does not seem to a racer
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Old 04-21-2009, 06:03 PM   #10527
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ok bicycle people


what would be a good price to drop on this frame?

I pasted the text from the CL ad in my town

would this be a decent frame to build my first road bike?
My inseam is a 32, so I think the frame would work




Specialized XL (58.5cm) Allez bike frame - $150


Specialized XL (58.5cm) Allez frame
Frame, Fork, headset, seatpost binder included.
2005 model, no dents, some light scratches (chain stay), looks great overall.
Less than 2k miles.
Always kept clean, never crashed or raced.
Specialized seatpost (carbon wrap) can be added for $15
Shimano 105 FD (Double, clamp-on) can be added for $15

Please e-mail with questions. Cash only. $150


Jesus Mutt. Just buy something that's already built for your first bike. you need to be able to test ride it to see how you are going to fit for at least your first one.
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Old 04-21-2009, 06:06 PM   #10528
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Jesus Mutt. Just buy something that's already built for your first bike. you need to be able to test ride it to see how you are going to fit for at least your first one.
the simpler among us learn the hard way

I figure building one will cost more in the long run, but it seems a good way to learn WTF I am doing

of course, I have been wrong thousands of times before and since I know from fuck all about this the chances of adding to that number are good
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Old 04-21-2009, 06:10 PM   #10529
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700 pages wow! Seems there are a lot of cycling fans like me out there :)
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Old 04-21-2009, 06:51 PM   #10530
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Jesus Mutt. Just buy something that's already built for your first bike. you need to be able to test ride it to see how you are going to fit for at least your first one.
+1

Do yourself a favor if you wanna go cheep: www.bikesdirect.com or surf ebay till you find a bike at a decent price. At 6' yer lookin at MAX 58cm TT and prolly closer to 57cm. Seat tube length is pretty well irrelevent. Seat Tube (ST) angle and Top Tube (TT) length are IMO the two most important measurements.

ST 'cause you need to get to Knee Over Pedal Spindle (KOPS) as a baseline to work from which puts you either forward of or behind the Bottom Bracket (BB). That affects how the bike's TT fits you. You can have the right length TT but the wrong ST angle and the bike's about worthless.

TT is important because if you get one too long (or too short), the right ST angle is about worthless.

That help without cluttering up yer other thread.

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