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Old 05-11-2009, 09:30 AM   #10816
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Old 05-12-2009, 02:02 PM   #10817
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Since this is still technically the basement, I expect to get a fair amount of shit.

I'm going to get back into bike riding, or least try to. I'm looking for recommendations on a good(not great) mountain bike. I used to ride a fair amount back in the early days of college. But, I was a poor student back then and did all my riding on a $80 Walmart bike. I can remember days when I'd get off that and my wrists and back screamed at me.

So, here it is 12 years later and I need a new bike. Not looking for anything spectacular, figure it'll be 50/50 split between road and trail. I'd like to keep the price under $500. Anything more than that, and I'd have a hard time not spending it on another murdercicle. Besides, I may decide the gas powered bikes win out.

So, what say the collective?!
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Old 05-12-2009, 02:09 PM   #10818
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Since this is still technically the basement, I expect to get a fair amount of shit.

I'm going to get back into bike riding, or least try to. I'm looking for recommendations on a good(not great) mountain bike. I used to ride a fair amount back in the early days of college. But, I was a poor student back then and did all my riding on a $80 Walmart bike. I can remember days when I'd get off that and my wrists and back screamed at me.

So, here it is 12 years later and I need a new bike. Not looking for anything spectacular, figure it'll be 50/50 split between road and trail. I'd like to keep the price under $500. Anything more than that, and I'd have a hard time not spending it on another murdercicle. Besides, I may decide the gas powered bikes win out.

So, what say the collective?!
Shop around for a good couple year old used $400 bike that fits you and isn't all worn out (fork, etc)
Spend the extra $100 on a good professional tune up with new cables, housings, chain, and cassette.

You'll have a better bike than anything you can buy new for $500.
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Old 05-12-2009, 02:25 PM   #10819
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So, here it is 12 years later and I need a new bike. Not looking for anything spectacular, figure it'll be 50/50 split between road and trail. I'd like to keep the price under $500.
used is very attractive from a price perspective, but you lose out on getting fit properly to the frame, unless you score that used bike at a local bike shop (LBS).

in your price range, a midrange Specialized Hardrock, or similar is likely a good choice. Full suspension bikes much under about $1200 tend to be junk, and you really only need full suspension when riding gonzo style downhill on rough trails, the rest of the time, its just dead weight.

The different brands tend to have different frame geometry and fit different body styles... For instance, Specialized bikes tend to fit people with long torsos better. I found Kona way too short (from seat to handlebar) for me. Trek is in the middle somewhere.

Within Specialized's lineup, for a given model year, the various submodels of a given line all use the same basic frame, and have differing grades of equipment, for instance a Hardrock Sport Disc has better parts than a Hardrock Disc, and these two differ from their non-disc counterparts by the disc brakes. Coincidentally, these are all clustered right around $500 I'm pretty sure the same applies to the other major brands, but I'm less familiar with them.

disc brakes are nice, but if you find a good deal on a non-disc bike, don't let that stop you.'

oh, if you're on the heavy side, verify that you can upgrade the fork springs, as the bikes tend to come from the factory set up for someone around 150 lbs
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Old 05-12-2009, 03:13 PM   #10820
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Have you checked your local craigslist? There are always Hard Rocks for sale on ours. I bought mine for $100 and got a mag trainer thrown in with it.
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Old 05-12-2009, 03:37 PM   #10821
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Since this is still technically the basement, I expect to get a fair amount of shit.

I'm going to get back into bike riding, or least try to. I'm looking for recommendations on a good(not great) mountain bike. I used to ride a fair amount back in the early days of college. But, I was a poor student back then and did all my riding on a $80 Walmart bike. I can remember days when I'd get off that and my wrists and back screamed at me.

So, here it is 12 years later and I need a new bike. Not looking for anything spectacular, figure it'll be 50/50 split between road and trail. I'd like to keep the price under $500. Anything more than that, and I'd have a hard time not spending it on another murdercicle. Besides, I may decide the gas powered bikes win out.

So, what say the collective?!

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/..._cliff4900.htm
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Old 05-12-2009, 04:03 PM   #10822
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yeah, nice components, probably a quite good frame, great price. and how does he fit it? who knows!
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Old 05-12-2009, 04:48 PM   #10823
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in your price range, a midrange Specialized Hardrock, or similar is likely a good choice. Full suspension bikes much under about $1200 tend to be junk, and you really only need full suspension when riding gonzo style downhill on rough trails, the rest of the time, its just dead weight.
I think you sound a little jaded? Besides, you can get very efficient squishies up to 6" of travel now under 30 lbs which makes them all very fun just about anywhere that isn't totally flat and smooth like your grey matter
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Old 05-12-2009, 05:23 PM   #10824
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I've got the jones for a carbon fiber bike. I know, my current jamis alum. is way better than I am, and I don't really need something less than 20 lbs, but, it is awfully harsh on the bumps in the road.
I've convinced myself I can leave the Jamis at the lake, and use it on the weekends when I'm down there to ride the perfectly maintained roads at the resort. That means buying something new(to me) for up here. Is there a limit to how old of a carbon framed bike I should be looking at? I found a trek 5200 in my size nearby, but it's 12 years old. Should I consider it, or look for something newer?
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Old 05-12-2009, 07:52 PM   #10825
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Is there a limit to how old of a carbon framed bike I should be looking at? I found a trek 5200 in my size nearby, but it's 12 years old. Should I consider it, or look for something newer?
I wouldn't trust it, I broke an TREK oclv frame back in 1996, frame was creaking for a couple of weeks, one afternoon on my way home from work the bottom bracket shell seperated from the downtube.. I received a replacement frame, but sold it to get a titanium frame.
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Old 05-12-2009, 09:06 PM   #10826
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yeah, nice components, probably a quite good frame, great price. and how does he fit it? who knows!
I apologize. I guess I shoulda put in: I'm 5'9", 30" inseam, 215# and most of the fat is in the belly.

Not that that helps any.
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Old 05-12-2009, 09:41 PM   #10827
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I apologize. I guess I shoulda put in: I'm 5'9", 30" inseam, 215# and most of the fat is in the belly.

Not that that helps any.
well, at 215 lbs, you'll definitely need to upgrade the springs on any mountain bike. air shocks can be pumped up, usually to the same PSI as your body weight (but this varies by shock and bike frame design), but most front forks are spring based, air forks are only found on the most expensive models.

if you DO get something with air shocks (Fox Float etc), you'll probably want to get the special uber-high pressure pump required to adjust them.



and, 5'9 30" inseam tells me you probably do NOT have a long torso (I'm 6' tall and wear 30" inseam, I do have a long torso), so Specialized may not be the optimal brand for you, you might look at Kona or Gary Fisher or whatever.
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Old 05-13-2009, 07:30 AM   #10828
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I apologize. I guess I shoulda put in: I'm 5'9", 30" inseam, 215# and most of the fat is in the belly.

Not that that helps any.
Prolly the biggest frame you wanna ride is an 18". 17" is prolly better. (or Med for them companies that do that)

I like Giant's offerings in the full squishy bike.

Them bikesdirect bikes are built in the same factories that build everyone else's stuff. Just don't have the name.

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Old 05-13-2009, 08:21 AM   #10829
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I wouldn't trust it, I broke an TREK oclv frame back in 1996, frame was creaking for a couple of weeks, one afternoon on my way home from work the bottom bracket shell seperated from the downtube.. I received a replacement frame, but sold it to get a titanium frame.
Come on Cat! That was over 10 years ago! I ranted about the old OCLV's as much as any other guy, back then. They've come a long, long way.

So what carbon fiber frame would you recommend???


EDIT: Doh, I didn't realize Poser was shopping for used carbon frames. That's akin to shopping for old race cars or bikes, simply too much variation and usually not a great idea. I thought he was looking to get something new, totally different story.
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Old 05-13-2009, 09:53 AM   #10830
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I've got the jones for a carbon fiber bike. I know, my current jamis alum. is way better than I am, and I don't really need something less than 20 lbs, but, it is awfully harsh on the bumps in the road.
I've convinced myself I can leave the Jamis at the lake, and use it on the weekends when I'm down there to ride the perfectly maintained roads at the resort. That means buying something new(to me) for up here. Is there a limit to how old of a carbon framed bike I should be looking at? I found a trek 5200 in my size nearby, but it's 12 years old. Should I consider it, or look for something newer?


The only CF frame I would ever buy is either new or one from a close friend that I know- and know the history of the bike.


The technology changes drastically every few years, but what do I know. I had a family friend die on a failed CF bike a little over a year ago. And that was a modern/expensive high end brand with very little miles on it. Freak accident but makes you think........


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