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Old 07-02-2009, 10:40 PM   #11476
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I think the inmate Se7en works at Seven Cycles.
Yep. Real nice guy. He gave Perry and myself a tour of the Seven production line a couple of years back. It was way cool.
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:36 AM   #11477
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I thought that was awesome. And thus began the descent into madness.
FWIW, I'm not a builder, but I have two good friends who are...

If you follow the cycling and frame-building blogosphere, you've probably heard of geekhouse bikes? Marty and I raced together in college. He did a bit of apprenticing with Mike (of ANT, and one of the originals at Indy Fab), which taught him the basics, but all the cool stuff, he's really taught himself. I give him major credit for doing that. He's a young 'un, and a bit of a hipster, but if you shoot him an email, I'm sure he'd reply with some thoughts on building frames. He comes at it more from an artists background (like many framebuilders do). His builds are more organic, and although he's a detail-monger (check out his track end /dropout design), he's more into incorporating nice curves to get a unique looking fixie.


Then there's the other school - one of my best friends is Mike Zanconato of Zanconato Cycles. We also raced bikes together in college, but he and I also were in the engineering school together. Mike has studied traditional designs, lengths, knows all the equations for angles and relationships between everything. He only uses lugs and steel, because that's what he likes. His dad was a machinist and taught him how to mitre and weld.

The common thread: Again, like Marty, beyond the basics, Mike taught himself the majority of the specifics of frame-building.

There's no shortage of builders in your area, get friendly...
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Old 07-03-2009, 08:29 AM   #11478
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If you follow the cycling and frame-building blogosphere, you've probably heard of geekhouse bikes?
Now this here just got my attention.

A couple of weeks ago while shopping for pads, I came across a bike built around one of their frames, the personal ride of an LBS employee. The headbadge and name caught my eye first, and then the quality of the construction. But I didn't think to look them up until just now.

Reason #467 why Boston's a good place to be a bike nerd.
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Old 07-03-2009, 09:17 AM   #11479
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How do you like it so far? I've been thinking of picking one up for almost a year now to replace my MTB as a commuter (hopefully it sits a bit more upright). With ~10k on it my Montague is showing its age. I['m thinking get the Marin for commuting and convert the Montague back into a trail bike that I can thrash without worry.

Hard to beat a no nonsense steel frame 29er, decent price too.
I really like it. I have been riding about twice a week since getting it on about June 1. (supposed to be every other day. ) Very comfortable upright seating position (that was my #1 criteria) smooth operation. Decent components... derailuers could be better but...

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Old 07-03-2009, 10:10 AM   #11480
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Twas the eve before Le Tour and all thru the house, not a creature was stirring 'cause Gummee! was sittin on pins and needles to see who gets the first Maillot Jaune!

Woot! Its JULY and the Tour is here!

Drug scandals be damned I wanna see some BIKE RACIN!

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Old 07-03-2009, 11:45 AM   #11481
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FWIW, I'm not a builder, but I have two good friends who are...

If you follow the cycling and frame-building blogosphere, you've probably heard of geekhouse bikes? Marty and I raced together in college. He did a bit of apprenticing with Mike (of ANT, and one of the originals at Indy Fab), which taught him the basics, but all the cool stuff, he's really taught himself. I give him major credit for doing that. He's a young 'un, and a bit of a hipster, but if you shoot him an email, I'm sure he'd reply with some thoughts on building frames. He comes at it more from an artists background (like many framebuilders do). His builds are more organic, and although he's a detail-monger (check out his track end /dropout design), he's more into incorporating nice curves to get a unique looking fixie.


Then there's the other school - one of my best friends is Mike Zanconato of Zanconato Cycles. We also raced bikes together in college, but he and I also were in the engineering school together. Mike has studied traditional designs, lengths, knows all the equations for angles and relationships between everything. He only uses lugs and steel, because that's what he likes. His dad was a machinist and taught him how to mitre and weld.

The common thread: Again, like Marty, beyond the basics, Mike taught himself the majority of the specifics of frame-building.

There's no shortage of builders in your area, get friendly...
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Old 07-03-2009, 12:12 PM   #11482
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I can't help but think that lugs help with that alignment? and silver soldering or brazing is a lot less violent to the metal than mig/tig welding, so ditto the temp differences will make less distortion in the jigging.

but, a proper jig would hold those tubes *exactly* where you want them regardless.
Tig is the least "violent" (as you put it) welding process of the ones you mention. The HAZ is far smaller with Tig than almost any other process.
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Old 07-03-2009, 01:45 PM   #11483
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Reason #467 why Boston's a good place to be a bike nerd.
Indeed! The kid has a great work ethic and a heck of an imagination.

Tell him I sent you
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Old 07-03-2009, 04:59 PM   #11484
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Yes, it did hurt

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Old 07-03-2009, 05:12 PM   #11485
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Old 07-03-2009, 05:17 PM   #11486
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Old 07-03-2009, 05:30 PM   #11487
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:00 PM   #11488
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Well, that certainly didn't look like it tickled!!

What happened?

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Old 07-03-2009, 07:02 PM   #11489
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Hi guys

It happened on the start of the 15th lap of a 20 lap criterium points race.
When the bell rang anouncing the start of the points lap, I was in a (unfamiliar ) position................close to the front and started thinking about points.

Lead guy made a break and I followed around the corner.
Unfortunately he lost it and I had no where to go.
I was actually afraid of sliding and didn't go to hard on the rear brake.

Like they teach you in off road school................look where you want to ride.
And I was looking at this guys arse as it slid across the tar.
Connected with his bike's front sprocket and got ejected.
Managed to clear the barrier tape and landed ( on my heaviest bodyparts ) on the other side of the road.
Mid air I thought.....................when is this gonna hurt?
Then it started hurting.
Apparently the bike did some aerial acrobatics as well.

Lucky I did not break anything, but left cheek ( the southern one) has been the size of a small watermelon for a week now, and my lower back and butt looks like brand new unwashed Levi's.

I think road rash would have been better.
The bike's drive train survived for the most part.

ANYWAY.............managed to squeeze enough $ out of my credit card for a new Felt F1 SL Team frame

Now I just have to get enough balls to get on again.

cheers



P.S Can't wait for the ITT on TV tomorrow
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Old 07-03-2009, 07:08 PM   #11490
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Ouch.
Sounds painful.

Get better. Get back on.
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