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Old 10-04-2009, 09:14 PM   #12361
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Based on what I've seen in Lancaster County...? I think I just did.
I know this is a hijack, but I'm not sure you can. They're so subdivided, each little "congregation" living by different rules, that broad generalizations don't work very well.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:33 PM   #12362
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I set a goal last week to log 200 miles between Monday and Friday. My commute is about 30 miles a day, and with a couple extra rides I was able to get close. I hit 170 on Friday, but with the miles came a new experience. Saddle Sores!

I had been wearing some Ex-Officio boxers (no seams) and my cycling knickers. I've ridden almost 1K miles with this combination, but admittedly, most of the miles where shorter rides. The last 300 miles or so I've been riding on almost a daily basis. So I guess it's catching up with me.

After doing some research online I decided to pick up some cycling shorts and just wear them under my knickers. Sorry guys, but I just can't bring myself to go out in public wearing only spandex.

I have a question though. There were alot of mentions of "Bag Balm" or vaseline being applied to the shorts before a ride. Do any of you do this? Is it necessary? Should I take a "dry" run before I try adding any sort of cream/jelly or should I just lube it up!

I haven't ridden since Friday, and I think I'm going to take another day off to let things chill out. It's funny how once you get in a pattern of riding every day, that you miss the joy of pedalin'. Today was a good day to wash/service the bike I guess.

Any tips or advice is appreciated.

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Old 10-05-2009, 04:01 AM   #12363
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I have a question though. There were alot of mentions of "Bag Balm" or vaseline being applied to the shorts before a ride. Do any of you do this? Is it necessary? Should I take a "dry" run before I try adding any sort of cream/jelly or should I just lube it up!


Any tips or advice is appreciated.

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A few guys I know don't use any type of chamois cream but most higher mileage guys do.

An easy one to get that works well is Chamois Butt'R. Pretty much any bike shop either has it or can get it quick. It comes in two versions. The squeeze tube is the regular and the plastic container is the "euro" version that is methylated. Both are fine although I use the tube stuff because it's cheaper.
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Old 10-05-2009, 04:22 AM   #12364
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So one of my teammates broke his hand in the first informal wednesday night 'cross races we had. Fortunately for us, he's a great photographer.





Somehow, I seem to not suck too bad at CX this year. I'm actually racing instead of just trying to stay alive.

And I finally finished my Manitowoc tour report over at the ol' blogerino. Kinda anticlimactic, I know- but I'm kind of busy this month.
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Old 10-05-2009, 04:56 AM   #12365
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Old 10-05-2009, 06:26 AM   #12366
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I have a question though. There were alot of mentions of "Bag Balm" or vaseline being applied to the shorts before a ride. Do any of you do this? Is it necessary? Should I take a "dry" run before I try adding any sort of cream/jelly or should I just lube it up!

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I have done century rides and I don't use any lube. That is just me and my preference. Each person is different and as Gummee says --- YMMV
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:13 AM   #12367
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I have done century rides and I don't use any lube. That is just me and my preference. Each person is different and as Gummee says --- YMMV

You need to toughen up the skin down there. If you ride a lot, the skin is tough and you don't need lube, but if you don't ride much, then you might need to lube up.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:15 AM   #12368
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There were alot of mentions of "Bag Balm" or vaseline being applied to the shorts before a ride. Do any of you do this? Is it necessary? Should I take a "dry" run before I try adding any sort of cream/jelly or should I just lube it up!
Chamois cream was originally used when chamois were made of leather. The leather would get stiff after washing if it wasn't treated. Most (all?) modern shorts use synthetic chamois that doesn't get stiff.

So, you won't need chamois cream for it's original purpose. But, that's not to say some sort of thick cream won't help avoid abrasion and keep all your nether bits moisturized and happy.

I have a tub of Chamois Butt'r. It's the euro-style stuff with a bit of menthol in the mix. Other than the tingle, I can't say I notice a difference between it and the non-tingly variety. Some of the lotions are also good for use on exposed skin on dry, cold wintery rides. I don't use it on every ride, just longer rides or race days.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:29 AM   #12369
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Chamois cream was originally used when chamois were made of leather. The leather would get stiff after washing if it wasn't treated. Most (all?) modern shorts use synthetic chamois that doesn't get stiff.

So, you won't need chamois cream for it's original purpose. But, that's not to say some sort of thick cream won't help avoid abrasion and keep all your nether bits moisturized and happy.

I have a tub of Chamois Butt'r. It's the euro-style stuff with a bit of menthol in the mix. Other than the tingle, I can't say I notice a difference between it and the non-tingly variety. Some of the lotions are also good for use on exposed skin on dry, cold wintery rides. I don't use it on every ride, just longer rides or race days.

The new sythetic pads can and will give you a bacterial skin rash if you're not careful cleaning them, or you wear one for a long rides with a lot of spinning (or fixed gear, constant motion) (century, etc). Assos makes a few cleansing products that keep this from happening, along with lube to fight abrasion/burn/hot spots.

I had it once and it wasn't fun, rash will smell too.

I use the butter on long rides, more so in summer season because of all the sweating.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:38 AM   #12370
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So one of my teammates broke his hand in the first informal wednesday night 'cross races we had. Fortunately for us, he's a great photographer.





Somehow, I seem to not suck too bad at CX this year. I'm actually racing instead of just trying to stay alive.

And I finally finished my Manitowoc tour report over at the ol' blogerino. Kinda anticlimactic, I know- but I'm kind of busy this month.
Good photographer? Them fuckers are all blurry an shit.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:15 AM   #12371
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I'm confused. Are you wearing boxers under your padded biking shorts?
I'm guessing he just means one of the many cycling friendly, wicking, lightweight material knicker offerings which are ultra-hip this season. Didn't you know the knicker was the new black? Everybody from Fox to Swobo has something to satisfy the inner bike-messenger in all of us
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Old 10-05-2009, 12:07 PM   #12372
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I like knickers.

More'n I do tights.

I have a coupla pairs of PI Boulder knickers that work very well for running as well as riding.

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Old 10-05-2009, 12:41 PM   #12373
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Some people ask how I stick to my high mileage program.

You don't race...

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How do you do it?

Proper motivation, I say!

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Old 10-05-2009, 01:14 PM   #12374
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I'm confused. Are you wearing boxers under your padded biking shorts?

Just boxers and knickers. Some cotton and some WWR fabric. The knickers don't have any padding sewn into them. I will be trying shorts with a chamois now though.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:21 PM   #12375
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I'm guessing he just means one of the many cycling friendly, wicking, lightweight material knicker offerings which are ultra-hip this season. Didn't you know the knicker was the new black? Everybody from Fox to Swobo has something to satisfy the inner bike-messenger in all of us
It has nothing to do with being hip. I just ride a steel bike with fenders and a leather seat. I have no interest in pretending to be or look like every other Lance Look-A-Like on the street. Kinda like how I ended up on Advrider. Just doing something different.
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