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Old 10-09-2009, 03:38 PM   #12526
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It was fully geared, and I stripped it down.

It ride REALLY nice for a 38 yo steel frame. In fact better than anything new in steel I was looking at.
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Old 10-09-2009, 03:44 PM   #12527
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bad pix of Nervex lugs
Prolly restore it in the end
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Old 10-09-2009, 04:48 PM   #12528
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any clues on how old a paramount that is?

almost seems a crime to strip off the Campi Nuevo or Super Record gearing that likely came with, and those 60s/70s vintage Campi hubs were very very good hubs, likely just need cleaning and a fresh load of grease.. only downside is the limited availability of replacement threaded freewheel clusters. of course, the rims are probably for glue-on sewups.

it likely has a campi bottom bracket, and obviously campi headset. I'd tear all those down, clean, regrease with good green waterproof ball bearing grease (phil woods stuff is perfect). IIRC, they are loose-ball type bearings. when adjusted correctly, they spin really smoothly with zero play. oh, the pedals too. the old campi white grease had a habit of turning into cheese after 5-10 years of neglect.
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Old 10-09-2009, 05:05 PM   #12529
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Cleaned the headset, replaced the vintage shimano BB with a sealed sugino for now. Been riding the hell out of it.

Not sure what I'm going to do with the wheels yet.
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Old 10-09-2009, 05:40 PM   #12530
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Cleaned the headset, replaced the vintage shimano BB with a sealed sugino for now. Been riding the hell out of it.

Not sure what I'm going to do with the wheels yet.
Shimano BB? huh, must be from the LATE 70s then. any Paramount from the 60s or early/mid 70s would have had a Campagnolo BB. Are the cranks and chainrings and pedals Campi? the brakes? derailleurs?

campi neuvo record from the late 60s-70s


a superrecord from the late 70s, 80s.
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Old 10-09-2009, 10:13 PM   #12531
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bad pix of Nervex lugs
Prolly restore it in the end
OK, one could maybe get a worse photo, but then one would need a blanket.

It's not like you're shooting up some skirt. Take your time.

All in good fun you know in case you're the sensitive type and all.
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Old 10-09-2009, 10:16 PM   #12532
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Shimano BB? huh, must be from the LATE 70s then. any Paramount from the 60s or early/mid 70s would have had a Campagnolo BB. Are the cranks and chainrings and pedals Campi? the brakes? derailleurs?

campi neuvo record from the late 60s-70s


a superrecord from the late 70s, 80s.
I got your SR hanging from the ceiling of the garage...

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Old 10-09-2009, 10:18 PM   #12533
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this is one huge thread! I'm glad to see you folk like the slightly slower and healthier type of two wheels as well


here is my 08 lemond poprad disc when it was new.. now it's covered in mud and has some different gears and tires on it :-)
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Old 10-10-2009, 12:21 AM   #12534
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campi neuvo record from the late 60s-70s


a superrecord from the late 70s, 80s.
Serial #s had it built in 1971. The old man converted it with cheaper components at one point to make it into a touring bike. I think the campy deraileurs disappeared at the shop years ago.

The problem with the vintage groups is the constant tinkering.
I built up a commuter with '70s Shimano 600 and I found myself always trying to dial it in. Looked great but not reliable for everyday hard city riding.




rear derailleurs especially just get old and sloppy
curious about the vintage campy though.
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Old 10-10-2009, 12:30 AM   #12535
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Serial #s had it built in 1971. The old man converted it with cheaper components at one point to make it into a touring bike. I think the campy deraileurs disappeared at the shop years ago.
bummer.

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The problem with the vintage groups is the constant tinkering.
I built up a commuter with '70s Shimano 600 and I found myself always trying to dial it in. Looked great but not reliable for everyday hard city riding.


rear derailleurs especially just get old and sloppy
curious about the vintage campy though.
yes, campi was friction shift, and all my old campi bikes were downtube shifters. BUT, when built with the right cables, and properly adjusted (not hard), they stayed on gear, and the shifters were very easy to find the sweet spot, and they stayed there. the old rear derailleurs had definite gear range limits, we ran 42-52 fronts and 13-19 or 13-21 clusters usually. but they shifted very smoothly and as crisp as you could expect friction shifters to shift.
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Old 10-10-2009, 12:31 AM   #12536
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ps. a 71 Paramount is a -sweet- lugged steel frame. about as near-on perfection as my Raleigh Pro Mk II was.
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Old 10-10-2009, 09:47 AM   #12537
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My google fu is weak this AM. The bike say what kind of tubing its made out of? 531? Somethin else?



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Old 10-10-2009, 11:20 AM   #12538
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We're doing the Rocky Hill 24hr race next weekend and I'm NOT in shape for a 24hr race. It should be interesting. I'll post a report after the race.
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Old 10-10-2009, 12:53 PM   #12539
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My google fu is weak this AM. The bike say what kind of tubing its made out of? 531? Somethin else?



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IIRC, all the 60s/70s Paramounts were fully Reynolds 531 Butted, tubes, stays, forks. late 70s frames may have been one of the upgraded Reynolds tube types (751 or something).



or



or





btw, neat history of the Paramount golden years,
http://www.waterfordbikes.com/2005/d...ry/pdggold.php

Waterford continues to make classic paramount steel frames.
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Old 10-10-2009, 04:15 PM   #12540
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I never knew Reynolds was a Brit company. My last job in England was with a Ti company.

While I have your attention....so I bought the Specialized mtn bike the guy was selling in FM. Guy gave me a manual but it was pretty much useless, where would I get more information on the forks and rear shock - i.e. what to do with it and how.

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