950 Supermoto Chronicles - Page 460

Garry · 03-19-2012, 03:15 PM

FTI used 5W fork oil. I don't recall what brand (I'm at work). The reworked suspension doesn't make all the bumps disappear and magically float through them, but the distracting harshness is gone. I'm not thinking about how the bike is misbehaving when rolling through a fast sweeper on crap pavement any more. I was even trying to hit the roughest pavement and it was a big improvement over where it was. DISCLAIMER: my suspension had 44K miles on it and had never been serviced. How much of the improvement was due to a regular service vs revalve remains to be seen. YMMV based on how hard you ride, where you ride, and what your expectations are for suspension. Considering where I was (abused, beat stock suspension) I am very happy with the money spent at FTI (about $500) and would recommend them.

I've had the front brake pulsing thing when coming to a stop happen on and off for years. Seems that cleaning the rotors with a scotchbrite pad and cleaning the calipers makes it go away for a while on my SMR. When it returns, just clean them up again and it goes away. I just cleaned it all up good over the winter and installed new EBC HH pads up front and there was no pulsing at all yesterday. YMMV...

EastSideSM · 03-19-2012, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nattyMo

Aero,

I recall you had a brake pulsing issue some time ago. Checked but couldn't find your old post. Another local SMR owner is having the same symptom, rotors don't appear to be in bad shape and are well in spec thickness wise. How were you able to correct the problem?

Thanks
NM

Do you know if they have ever repacked or replaced their wheel bearings? Sometimes bad bearings can lead to a pulsing feeling when braking.

omnivore · 03-19-2012, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garry

FTI used 5W fork oil. I don't recall what brand (I'm at work). The reworked suspension doesn't make all the bumps disappear and magically float through them, but the distracting harshness is gone. I'm not thinking about how the bike is misbehaving when rolling through a fast sweeper on crap pavement any more. I was even trying to hit the roughest pavement and it was a big improvement over where it was. DISCLAIMER: my suspension had 44K miles on it and had never been serviced. How much of the improvement was due to a regular service vs revalve remains to be seen. YMMV based on how hard you ride, where you ride, and what your expectations are for suspension. Considering where I was (abused, beat stock suspension) I am very happy with the money spent at FTI (about $500) and would recommend them.

I've had the front brake pulsing thing when coming to a stop happen on and off for years. Seems that cleaning the rotors with a scotchbrite pad and cleaning the calipers makes it go away for a while on my SMR. When it returns, just clean them up again and it goes away. I just cleaned it all up good over the winter and installed new EBC HH pads up front and there was no pulsing at all yesterday. YMMV...

Was this $500 ish for fork and shock revalve and re-spring?

Garry · 03-19-2012, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omnivore

Was this $500 ish for fork and shock revalve and re-spring?

Fork and shock revalve (which includes a rebuild). No new springs required. The FTI web site has their prices listed.

http://ftiracing.com/?page_id=16

Thumper996 · 03-19-2012, 06:45 PM

FWIW SPS installed Maxima Racing 5wt oil in the forks and Ohlins 2,5 wt oil in shock. Still haven't got her off the bike lift yet to test ride the suspension rebuild. Exhaust is re-wrapped and back on bike, not just got to finish the wheel polishing work and mount some tires and i can test her. Maybe ready by first weekend in April.

nattyMo · 03-19-2012, 07:07 PM

Thanks for the reply,

If you happen to get a chance, I'm interested in what brand they used. There is a HUGE difference in viscosity among fork oil weights. See chart in the following link for an example. Since you went to the trouble of having your forks re-valved you may want the brand info for future reference as well.

http://www.peterverdone.com/wiki/ind...spension_Fluid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garry

FTI used 5W fork oil. I don't recall what brand (I'm at work).

Jhon · 03-20-2012, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nattyMo

Aero,

I recall you had a brake pulsing issue some time ago. Checked but couldn't find your old post. Another local SMR owner is having the same symptom, rotors don't appear to be in bad shape and are well in spec thickness wise. How were you able to correct the problem?

Thanks
NM

Try cleaning the bobbins between the disc outer ring and inner. Over time dirt and dust builds up reducing clearances and binding the disc outer. As it heats up in use and expands it cannot float causing temporary warpage.

Try a drill and lots of solvent cleaner, turning each bobbin until all the dirt has been removed. When all are clean you should be able to see that the disc outer can 'rotate' slightly on the disc inner.

This solved the problem on mine completely.

nattyMo · 03-20-2012, 12:47 PM

Thanks all for the replies, some great tips. I'll pass on the info.

NM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jhon

Try cleaning the bobbins between the disc outer ring and inner. Over time dirt and dust builds up reducing clearances and binding the disc outer. As it heats up in use and expands it cannot float causing temporary warpage.

Try a drill and lots of solvent cleaner, turning each bobbin until all the dirt has been removed. When all are clean you should be able to see that the disc outer can 'rotate' slightly on the disc inner.

This solved the problem on mine completely.

goodcat8 · 03-20-2012, 06:44 PM

TODAY

KHVol · 03-20-2012, 07:00 PM

More xlnt pics, GC8..now..where were those taken ??

goodcat8 · 03-21-2012, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KHVol

More xlnt pics, GC8..now..where were those taken ??

Umm..... Im not exactly sure. I got up yesterday (on work vacation) and said..... "I'm outta here." So I hopped on the katoom and headed south/east....ish. Eventually saw some snowy mountains, (I love those) and headed that way. I think this is near fontana or somewhere in San Bernadino. Over 300 miles yesterday of complete wandering.

A few more w/ my little point and shoot.

EastSideSM · 03-21-2012, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goodcat8

Umm..... Im not exactly sure. I got up yesterday (on work vacation) and said..... "I'm outta here." So I hopped on the katoom and headed south/east....ish. Eventually saw some snowy mountains, (I love those) and headed that way. I think this is near fontana or somewhere in San Bernadino. Over 300 miles yesterday of complete wandering.

AWESOME. So are you keeping it or still looking to sell her?

goodcat8 · 03-21-2012, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EastSideSM

AWESOME. So are you keeping it or still looking to sell her?

Still letting her go. On my outing's I found a trump dealer in the middle of nowhere. And I have a moto-erection for this.

I know it's a quarter of the radness our 950's are. But it's the one currently speaking to me

You guys have good taste in pictures

maybe you'll dig a few of these from last week's "I'm outta here..."

I usually ride by myself so getting some of these w/ the self timer is a true effort in frustration

omnivore · 03-21-2012, 03:28 PM

LOL...funny, the new Bonny SE is what's turning me on lately too,LOL

goodcat8 · 03-21-2012, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omnivore

LOL...funny, the new Bonny SE is what's turning me on lately too,LOL

Weird right?!

When the mag wheels first came out I was like "F' that. Ugly 70's throwback." Now I love 'em.

03-19-2012, 03:15 PM	#6886
Garry Old and In The Way Joined: May 2005 Location: Murrysville, PA Oddometer: 1,082	FTI used 5W fork oil. I don't recall what brand (I'm at work). The reworked suspension doesn't make all the bumps disappear and magically float through them, but the distracting harshness is gone. I'm not thinking about how the bike is misbehaving when rolling through a fast sweeper on crap pavement any more. I was even trying to hit the roughest pavement and it was a big improvement over where it was. DISCLAIMER: my suspension had 44K miles on it and had never been serviced. How much of the improvement was due to a regular service vs revalve remains to be seen. YMMV based on how hard you ride, where you ride, and what your expectations are for suspension. Considering where I was (abused, beat stock suspension) I am very happy with the money spent at FTI (about $500) and would recommend them. I've had the front brake pulsing thing when coming to a stop happen on and off for years. Seems that cleaning the rotors with a scotchbrite pad and cleaning the calipers makes it go away for a while on my SMR. When it returns, just clean them up again and it goes away. I just cleaned it all up good over the winter and installed new EBC HH pads up front and there was no pulsing at all yesterday. YMMV... __________________ 2007 KTM 950 SM-R 2009 KTM 530 EXC http://www.MotoRoads.net

03-20-2012, 06:44 PM	#6894
goodcat8 I can pass this guy..... Joined: Feb 2008 Location: Los Angeles Oddometer: 2,738	TODAY __________________ 2012 Triumph Bonneville 2006 Suzuki Vstrom Prior: 3rd Battalion - 6th Marines - 2nd Marine Division - Lima Company - 2nd Platoon - 0311

03-20-2012, 07:00 PM	#6895
KHVol Beastly Adventurer Joined: May 2004 Location: Virginia Oddometer: 2,078	More xlnt pics, GC8..now..where were those taken ?? __________________ "Character cannot be summoned at the moment of crisis if it has been squandered by years of compromise and rationalization"

03-21-2012, 03:28 PM	#6899
omnivore SuperSportTourer Joined: Jun 2004 Location: Brantford,ONT,CAnada Oddometer: 1,005	LOL...funny, the new Bonny SE is what's turning me on lately too,LOL __________________ XR200R KTM 950SM CBR Fireblade-GTU Endurance racebike 1996 YZF 600-Lost Era racebike 1999 R6-Rookie Challenge racebike

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03-19-2012, 06:45 PM	#6890
Thumper996 Studly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2009 Oddometer: 506	FWIW SPS installed Maxima Racing 5wt oil in the forks and Ohlins 2,5 wt oil in shock. Still haven't got her off the bike lift yet to test ride the suspension rebuild. Exhaust is re-wrapped and back on bike, not just got to finish the wheel polishing work and mount some tires and i can test her. Maybe ready by first weekend in April.