950 Supermoto Chronicles - Page 479

eSONG · 05-02-2012, 07:38 PM

fyi re: vacuum fuel pumps

http://www.amazon.com/Fox-Distributi.../dp/B00336EBHQ

or,

http://www.heeters.com/snbpa.shtml

Mikuni Fuel Pump

Specifications: Mikuni #DF52-21-D
For use when fuel tank level is below carburetor
Vacuum operated
Round style
Bolt holes for 6mm or 1/4" bolts, (3 5/8" between centers)
Two outlets, 35 LPH flow rate
NOTE: dual outlet pumps can be substituted for a single heavy duty pump by plugging one outlet
Price (#ET-42-5310)-----$32.99

Fuel pump rebuild kit (#ET-42-5322)-----$15.99

HOW TO: http://www.ktm950.info/how/Orange%20...ikuni_vac.html

omnivore · 05-02-2012, 08:00 PM

Cool..thx!
Saves almost $50!
Anyone know what grade and size of fuel line is the best?

eSONG · 05-02-2012, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omnivore

Cool..thx!
Saves almost $50!
Anyone know what grade and size of fuel line is the best?

they used a 5/16" fuel hose in this how-to

http://www.ktm950.info/how/Orange%20...ikuni_vac.html

aeronaut · 05-03-2012, 08:26 AM

Hey folks, did a quick search but....

Anyone have easy access to the dimensions of the stock battery?
Also, terminal locations (pos/neg on R/L looking at the side of the battery closest to the terminals)?

900rider · 05-03-2012, 08:28 AM

I can't comment on the size, but the + terminal is on the right side of the bike and the - is on the left.

EastSideSM · 05-03-2012, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aeronaut

Hey folks, did a quick search but....

Anyone have easy access to the dimensions of the stock battery?
Also, terminal locations (pos/neg on R/L looking at the side of the battery closest to the terminals)?

I have one sitting at home I can measure later.

I switched to the Shorai and it is maybe an inch or 2 thinner front to back, I believe the height is the same and the width across is the same.

DM47 · 05-03-2012, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Bob

Say hello to Ethanol!

I also do not run ethanol in mine, but can't seem to get anywhere near 40mpg. Usually around 32-34.

nattyMo · 05-03-2012, 09:09 PM

Aero,

Check this for dimensions:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...&postcount=498

If you're viewing the batt from the top as if you were seated on the bike the + term is on the RH side.

NM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aeronaut

Hey folks, did a quick search but....

Anyone have easy access to the dimensions of the stock battery?
Also, terminal locations (pos/neg on R/L looking at the side of the battery closest to the terminals)?

Pistolero · 05-04-2012, 05:41 AM

New addition to the family

...

I just got this and I have noticed at low speed (about 25 to 50mph) the suspension bounces... It stops after I get past that.

I know I have to do the fork seals and fluid but I didn't think that would make the suspension bounce

also what weight of fluid would you guys recommend running in the forks?

thanks for the help in advance

nattyMo · 05-04-2012, 06:38 AM

Nice looking scoot, welcome to the chronicles

bad seals or the wrong fork oil can ABSOLUTELY make you suspension bounce.

I've been through my forks more then I'd care to think about. Mostly because I chose the wrong fork oil. Here are a few things I've learned (the hard way).. 5wt fork oils vary over a WIDE range of viscosity. Really it's best to compare the cSt value at a specific temp, see here for more info: http://www.peterverdone.com/wiki/ind...spension_Fluid

For a baseline rebuild I'd strongly suggest the 5wt Motorex fork oil, recommended by WP, it has a cSt @ 100c of 5.60. As an example, If you run a 5wt Silkoleen RFS it's cSt value is 9.46. I've run the RFS, made the fork awful harsh (bouncy). Compare oils at the 100c value, 'cause suspension gets fairly hot.

If you do seals, don't waste time with the stockers or Mooose or anything else really. The ONLY seals that I've found to improve the stock seal stiction and not leak, are the SKF seals from Slavens racing, the best I've tried by far.
http://slavensracing.com/products/kt...p-ktm-husaberg

As long as you're doing seals you should also replace the bushings. Slavens also carry KYB replacements for our WP ROMA 4860 forks. They're every bit as good at the stock WP bushing for about half the cost.
http://slavensracing.com/products/kt...p-ktm-husaberg

That's my 2p
NM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pistolero

New addition to the family

...

I just got this and I have noticed at low speed (about 25 to 50mph) the suspension bounces... It stops after I get past that.

I know I have to do the fork seals and fluid but I didn't think that would make the suspension bounce

also what weight of fluid would you guys recommend running in the forks?

thanks for the help in advance

Pistolero · 05-04-2012, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nattyMo

Nice looking scoot, welcome to the chronicles

bad seals or the wrong fork oil can ABSOLUTELY make you suspension bounce.

I've been through my forks more then I'd care to think about. Mostly because I chose the wrong fork oil. Here are a few things I've learned (the hard way).. 5wt fork oils vary over a WIDE range of viscosity. Really it's best to compare the cSt value at a specific temp, see here for more info: http://www.peterverdone.com/wiki/ind...spension_Fluid

For a baseline rebuild I'd strongly suggest the 5wt Motorex fork oil, recommended by WP, it has a cSt @ 100c of 5.60. As an example, If you run a 5wt Silkoleen RFS it's cSt value is 9.46. I've run the RFS, made the fork awful harsh (bouncy). Compare oils at the 100c value, 'cause suspension gets fairly hot.

If you do seals, don't waste time with the stockers or Mooose or anything else really. The ONLY seals that I've found to improve the stock seal stiction and not leak, are the SKF seals from Slavens racing, the best I've tried by far.
http://slavensracing.com/products/kt...p-ktm-husaberg

As long as you're doing seals you should also replace the bushings. Slavens also carry KYB replacements for our WP ROMA 4860 forks. They're every bit as good at the stock WP bushing for about half the cost.
http://slavensracing.com/products/kt...p-ktm-husaberg

That's my 2p
NM

Thank you very much! I'll be doing the fork seals very soon and I'll go ahead and do all that.

Is the factory valving in the forks good or would suggest an upgrade?

goodcat8 · 05-04-2012, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pistolero

Thank you very much! I'll be doing the fork seals very soon and I'll go ahead and do all that.

Is the factory valving in the forks good or would suggest an upgrade?

Search a many a pages back and you'll encounter the suspension discussion saga.

Those wheels are really trick looking

nattyMo · 05-04-2012, 12:53 PM

Your welcome,

Re: valving. It's 'good' but maybe not good enough. Really depends on you. I'd suggest setting up a good baseline. In your case that sounds like seals, bushings and fresh oil, set the sag and start with the stock suggested clicker settings,. See how you like that. Get the fork working to factory spec first. Opinions very quite a bit on the stock WP performance. I found my fork to be lacking, too much high-speed compression damping. I then set off on an oddessy to tweak it to my liking, one I haven't finished nearly two years later. You could also send your fork off to be reworked but until you have an idea of how well it performs stock, you will not know what mod direction to go in.

NM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pistolero

Thank you very much! I'll be doing the fork seals very soon and I'll go ahead and do all that.

Is the factory valving in the forks good or would suggest an upgrade?

Effigy · 05-05-2012, 07:37 AM

There comes a time that a man has to make some changes to his life and here goes: I just sold my 990 SM and I just miss her...

Let's see what will be next for me! :)

All the best luck for everyone!

Sevv · 05-05-2012, 07:23 PM

With Effigy leaving I suppose I should introduce myself.

I bought a 2006 950SM in bone stock trim last February and since then have literally read through every post on this thread. Holy cow. Thanks to all the good information posted here I've made a couple of what I believe are wise purchases.

690SM screen - more wind noise (slightly) I'm 5'8" and there is no buffeting, minimal wind on chest, though a slight push on upper shoulders.
Superduke front fender
Evolution Clutch slave
Moto-overland rear rack
Proper springs front and rear for my weight.
Vacuum fuel pump from alternate cycle in BC

I've not installed everything yet, but I'm puttering around here and there to get it together. Because I live in Canada there haven't been a lot of chances to ride so far but I've managed to put on a little over 700km. The mileage isn't great (but you knew that). The fun factor makes up for it by a long shot (you knew that too).

I'm making the switch from sport bikes for a couple of reasons, the primary is that I managed to give myself a fairly severe lower back injury at work as a result of bad ergonomics and extended working hours. This means the leant over position of a sportbike wasn't viable for me for more then 10 minutes at a time. After which I needed upwards of an hour to recover (no fun at all). And I'm WAY to young to be living like that. So after a whole season of almost not riding at all I took a chance on the 950 and I freaking LOVE it. Riding is fun again.

Second reason is that it's no fun to ride a 600 at legal speeds... it's work to hold the bike back and honestly I don't like tickets not that I've gotten a lot.

So a couple pictures.

05-02-2012, 07:38 PM	#7171
eSONG Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Aug 2007 Location: Northampton, Mass Oddometer: 429	fyi re: vacuum fuel pumps http://www.amazon.com/Fox-Distributi.../dp/B00336EBHQ or, http://www.heeters.com/snbpa.shtml Mikuni Fuel Pump Specifications: Mikuni #DF52-21-D For use when fuel tank level is below carburetor Vacuum operated Round style Bolt holes for 6mm or 1/4" bolts, (3 5/8" between centers) Two outlets, 35 LPH flow rate NOTE: dual outlet pumps can be substituted for a single heavy duty pump by plugging one outlet Price (#ET-42-5310)-----$32.99 Fuel pump rebuild kit (#ET-42-5322)-----$15.99 HOW TO: http://www.ktm950.info/how/Orange%20...ikuni_vac.html __________________ Song's Ride Report and Pics -- Touring Nova Scotia on a KTM 625 smc -- Philly to Cave City...and back on a KTM 625 smc -- Appalachian Twisties 2012

05-02-2012, 08:00 PM	#7172
omnivore SuperSportTourer Joined: Jun 2004 Location: Brantford,ONT,CAnada Oddometer: 1,005	Cool..thx! Saves almost $50! Anyone know what grade and size of fuel line is the best? __________________ XR200R KTM 950SM CBR Fireblade-GTU Endurance racebike 1996 YZF 600-Lost Era racebike 1999 R6-Rookie Challenge racebike

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Pistolero W. F. O. Joined: Mar 2011 Location: TN Oddometer: 556	New addition to the family ... I just got this and I have noticed at low speed (about 25 to 50mph) the suspension bounces... It stops after I get past that. I know I have to do the fork seals and fluid but I didn't think that would make the suspension bounce also what weight of fluid would you guys recommend running in the forks? thanks for the help in advance __________________ The love of the road is not something you can explain to someone who does not understand it. 2008 KTM 990 ADVENTURE

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05-03-2012, 08:26 AM	#7174
aeronaut Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Sep 2008 Location: Central MD, USA Oddometer: 393	Hey folks, did a quick search but.... Anyone have easy access to the dimensions of the stock battery? Also, terminal locations (pos/neg on R/L looking at the side of the battery closest to the terminals)?

05-03-2012, 08:28 AM	#7175
900rider Studly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Meadville, PA Oddometer: 509	I can't comment on the size, but the + terminal is on the right side of the bike and the - is on the left.

05-05-2012, 07:37 AM	#7184
Effigy Adventurer Joined: Nov 2008 Oddometer: 58	There comes a time that a man has to make some changes to his life and here goes: I just sold my 990 SM and I just miss her... Let's see what will be next for me! :) All the best luck for everyone!

05-05-2012, 07:23 PM	#7185
Sevv Adventurer Joined: Apr 2012 Oddometer: 13	With Effigy leaving I suppose I should introduce myself. I bought a 2006 950SM in bone stock trim last February and since then have literally read through every post on this thread. Holy cow. Thanks to all the good information posted here I've made a couple of what I believe are wise purchases. 690SM screen - more wind noise (slightly) I'm 5'8" and there is no buffeting, minimal wind on chest, though a slight push on upper shoulders. Superduke front fender Evolution Clutch slave Moto-overland rear rack Proper springs front and rear for my weight. Vacuum fuel pump from alternate cycle in BC I've not installed everything yet, but I'm puttering around here and there to get it together. Because I live in Canada there haven't been a lot of chances to ride so far but I've managed to put on a little over 700km. The mileage isn't great (but you knew that). The fun factor makes up for it by a long shot (you knew that too). I'm making the switch from sport bikes for a couple of reasons, the primary is that I managed to give myself a fairly severe lower back injury at work as a result of bad ergonomics and extended working hours. This means the leant over position of a sportbike wasn't viable for me for more then 10 minutes at a time. After which I needed upwards of an hour to recover (no fun at all). And I'm WAY to young to be living like that. So after a whole season of almost not riding at all I took a chance on the 950 and I freaking LOVE it. Riding is fun again. Second reason is that it's no fun to ride a 600 at legal speeds... it's work to hold the bike back and honestly I don't like tickets not that I've gotten a lot. So a couple pictures.