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Old 07-06-2014, 12:12 PM   #1
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Can the 500x with mods be made as dirt worthy as a g650gs off road? If I had the money I would buy the g650gs now but I can't swing it & don't want to finance it. So in time with mods & $2000 could it be made to be as capable off road? Or should I just buy a Dr650 now & pick up a nc700/cb500 later? I just want to do medium to light off roading I'm not looking to do single track. I've read a lot about the 500x both on this forum & reviews, but I'm just not that clear on its off road potential.
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Old 07-06-2014, 02:39 PM   #2
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Can the 500x with mods be made as dirt worthy as a g650gs off road? If I had the money I would buy the g650gs now but I can't swing it & don't want to finance it. So in time with mods & $2000 could it be made to be as capable off road? Or should I just buy a Dr650 now & pick up a nc700/cb500 later? I just want to do medium to light off roading I'm not looking to do single track. I've read a lot about the 500x both on this forum & reviews, but I'm just not that clear on its off road potential.

I would go into the CB500X thread and post this also. but none of us have really had it off road yet. once i have a skid plate and some aggressive tires I will be taking mine off road to see what it will do. But that's going to be a wile yet.
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Old 07-06-2014, 03:15 PM   #3
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Don't start another thread, please. All of this is discussed in the main CB500X thread.

No. The CB500X is a street bike, with as Honda marketing plainly states "adventure look". Rake and Trail are those of a street bike, as is wheel-base and frame design. You can add suspension and ground clearance, but it will never be a DS or an All Roads Adventure bike. The original F650GS Dakar was at the heavy end of the DS spectrum, and could go off-road if you were a good rider. The new CB500X never pretended to be in this class.

Edit: See also the "Adventure-tourers vs. Road-only motorcycles" thread for information on the differences between these two classes of motorcycle.
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Old 07-06-2014, 04:10 PM   #4
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Jeep guy, the 500X will do light to medium hard off roading as you describe easily, preferably with a bash plate fitted and maybe some better tyres. Like any other bike, depending on your weight or what you want to carry, some money spent on the suspension will help out.

Had mine in a lot of different places now with no problems whatsoever.

No idea about the rake, trail, wheelbase being a road bike design, but the X is very smooth and handles very confidently off road. Pick your speed for the conditions and learn to read the trail, makes it all become an enjoyable ride.

I previously had a 650 XChallenge and a 600 Transalp and so far I have taken the 500X most places I have ridden before.
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Old 07-07-2014, 03:54 AM   #5
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I previously had a 650 XChallenge and a 600 Transalp and so far I have taken the 500X most places I have ridden before.
I've only sat on one, but I agree. With decent tires and a skid plate I think this light little dude with a nice normal seat height could be taken almost anywhere with a competent rider.

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Old 07-07-2014, 09:24 AM   #6
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Pretty much any bike can handle gravel roads. I used to ride my GL1500 on gravel all the time. When I was growing up, there were lots of gravel roads where I lived. There was usually a pretty girl down that road somewhere, too! I travelled gravel roads all the time on my old CB360 and CB400. When I was in Colorado, I used to ride my Suzuki GS650G up Gold Camp Road to Victor and Cripple Creek (before it became a casino trap). I also did Phantom Canyon numerous times. No problems.

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Old 07-07-2014, 09:52 AM   #7
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You want to buy a cbx now, and later then put in two large and make it off road.

Buying the GS now at a eight thousand brand new does not need to happen.
She has been around since 2011. Plenty should be on the market amd well farkled.

With your finicial situation, I recommend going mighty DR.
you could put a 19" tyre on and have more fun on the road.
$300 suuspension upgrade and a new seat and good foot pegs and you are golden.
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Old 07-07-2014, 11:20 AM   #8
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IMO, the CB500X with knobbies and a skid plate would go any where my '06 F650GS has gone. Put in some heavy weight fork oil, if the suspension is too soft. If I had to make a choice today, I'd probably buy the Honda.

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Old 07-07-2014, 01:13 PM   #9
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I don't know anything about the CB500X (other than I think it looks really cool), but if money is the issue, a pre-2008 F650GS is essentially the same bike as a G650GS and can be found for much less than the going rate on a new one.
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:35 PM   #10
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My CBX will do everything I want to do off-road. It may not be "the best" but it will do it. I put on a radiator cover, engine and tank crash bars, a set of aluminum panniers, and a pair of Shinko 705 tires. The new front tire is a 130/80-17, which is 25.2 inches. This required me to cut some aluminum plates for raising the front fender. The common 19" size of 110/80-19 is only 3/4 of an inch taller, thus alleviating one of the biggest concerns with the CBX.

I haven't started messing with suspension yet. I just bought some fork caps off of eBay that will allow for some adjustment of the front forks, and I ordered the wrench that allows adjusting the rear suspension.

The value equation for the Honda will win every time. I spent $5k on the bike new, and around $2k in mods.
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:56 PM   #11
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My CBX will do everything I want to do off-road. It may not be "the best" but it will do it. I put on a radiator cover, engine and tank crash bars, a set of aluminum panniers, and a pair of Shinko 705 tires. The new front tire is a 130/80-17, which is 25.2 inches. This required me to cut some aluminum plates for raising the front fender. The common 19" size of 110/80-19 is only 3/4 of an inch taller, thus alleviating one of the biggest concerns with the CBX.

I haven't started messing with suspension yet. I just bought some fork caps off of eBay that will allow for some adjustment of the front forks, and I ordered the wrench that allows adjusting the rear suspension.

The value equation for the Honda will win every time. I spent $5k on the bike new, and around $2k in mods.
Photos or it does not exist.

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Old 07-07-2014, 07:47 PM   #12
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Photos or it does not exist.

There are some pictures of it on the cb500x forum in the link below.

http://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,823.7.html
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Old 07-08-2014, 07:35 AM   #13
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There are some pictures of it on the cb500x forum in the link below.

http://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,823.7.html
Thanks Loop, I think those are the best pictures I have.
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Old 07-10-2014, 04:23 AM   #14
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My CBX will do everything I want to do off-road. It may not be "the best" but it will do it. I put on a radiator cover, engine and tank crash bars, a set of aluminum panniers, and a pair of Shinko 705 tires. The new front tire is a 130/80-17, which is 25.2 inches. This required me to cut some aluminum plates for raising the front fender. The common 19" size of 110/80-19 is only 3/4 of an inch taller, thus alleviating one of the biggest concerns with the CBX.

I haven't started messing with suspension yet. I just bought some fork caps off of eBay that will allow for some adjustment of the front forks, and I ordered the wrench that allows adjusting the rear suspension.

The value equation for the Honda will win every time. I spent $5k on the bike new, and around $2k in mods.
If you raised your front fender . . . You risk damage to it if you bottom out the forks on a bad bump etc. The stock bike only has full fork travel clearance with the fender in the stock location. If you crush the front fender when landing off a jump . . . It could lock up the tire causing and endo (only in an extreme condition) etc.

A high fender would be better . . . But may still contact an oversize tire when bottoming the forks.

Raising the front with longer forks (and raising the rear to match) is the best solution for a taller tire etc.
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Old 07-22-2014, 08:04 AM   #15
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Cide1,

Can you give some updated details on your 130/80 front tire? How's it riding? How's the raised front fender? Any issues with contact?
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