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Old 03-11-2012, 10:32 AM   #22966
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So put in gear did 6th on a stand rolled backwards. Spun in finger tight till it stopped then set jamb nut. Cool? Ape says find tdc then back off a 1/4 turn after turning in... Thoughts
If you feel how much the spring pushes on the rod, finger tight seems a bit loose...


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Old 03-11-2012, 12:01 PM   #22967
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I couldn't set the MCCT by ear, the 610 sounds like somebody shaking a box of rocks when it's running right. I found that there is a 12mm range of adjustment with the MCCT, with a worn chain I found how far the MCCT was turned in, then checked it with a new chain...I decided that at the longest I would go 12,000 miles on a chain, so every 4,000 miles I turned the MCCT in 4mm. I posted my measurements in this thread back in 2009.

I really think that the way to get a feel for your bike with a MCCT you should pull the left side cover and flywheel, then you can adjust the chain and actually feel the tension, then tighten it up a turn every couple of thousand miles. The 610 will never be a KLR and the goal is to keep the cam chain out of the reed valve, not to get the chain to last longer.

The guy in the video Oax posted explains it pretty good, high rpm and the ACCT can't keep tension on the chain. Not sure if I buy his theory that the ACCT strips, but I can see how rpm can overcome the ratchets on the ACCT.
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Old 03-11-2012, 06:19 PM   #22968
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I couldn't set the MCCT by ear, the 610 sounds like somebody shaking a box of rocks when it's running right.

So F*ing True!
One time after first pro Cam chain change my bike was quiet. Give it a month right!
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Old 03-11-2012, 09:02 PM   #22969
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So put in gear did 6th on a stand rolled backwards. Spun in finger tight till it stopped then set jamb nut. Cool? Ape says find tdc then back off a 1/4 turn after turning in... Thoughts
The APE recommendation makes sense. At TDC on the compression stroke, the valves are closed, the followers are on the base circles and the cam lobes aren't putting any leading or trailing tension on the chain. The cam can rotate freely in response to the tensioner adjustment. With that arrangement, going in all the way and then back a small controlled amount seems like a reasonable way to do it. And since you need the engine to be in this arrangement to check valve adjustment, doing it at the same time as the valves would be a convenient and appropriate way to reset the MCCT on a schedule.

If you think about it, 1/4 turn on an M8x1.25 thread is ~0.31mm, or about 0.012 in. How big are the steps on the ACCT relative to an "ideal" setting? The ACCT can't do better than going from too tight, when some condition of dynamic chain tension allows the tensioner to skip out to the next notch with nearly zero slack (making that up, don't know when it actually happens) to migrating past just right and probably spending most of the chain's life too loose. Assuming you stay in front of wear, the MCCT should allow you to keep it just right at all times.
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Old 03-11-2012, 09:45 PM   #22970
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For guys running MT43 on the back, what tube size works best? Tire is called 4.00x18, but said to be really tall by some. Would a 110-120/100-18 HD tube be correct?
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:50 AM   #22971
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While back someoune posted a link for cheap Leo Vince slip on's. Searched but no dice. Anyone remember where this is, finally gonna pull the trigger on either the Uptite or the Leo Vince thoughts?
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:05 AM   #22972
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For guys running MT43 on the back, what tube size works best? Tire is called 4.00x18, but said to be really tall by some. Would a 110-120/100-18 HD tube be correct?
I have been running a standard 18" tube, 120 I think at 10psi with no problems. If you havent already installed one, you'll need a rim lock and keep it nice and snug.
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:07 AM   #22973
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While back someoune posted a link for cheap Leo Vince slip on's. Searched but no dice. Anyone remember where this is, finally gonna pull the trigger on either the Uptite or the Leo Vince thoughts?

I loved the Uptite pipe, sounded great and the spark arrestor was obvious and included.
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Old 03-12-2012, 01:55 PM   #22974
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Crap. My one day free for the next several weekends is March 25th... Unless y'all want to wait until late May

I could do March 25th. That way it would be done before the Desert 100.

That is if I can get the parts.

I saw a list of needed stuff for the cam chain, but can't find it now.
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:03 PM   #22975
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Found it http://www.indysuperbike.com/custome...ductid=7879710
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:12 PM   #22976
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MArch 25th... where?
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:44 PM   #22977
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Do the leo pipes come with the pipe clamp? Mine's rusty...
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:33 PM   #22978
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MArch 25th... where?
I have a garage that would work, but I'm on the north end of Whidbey Island.
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:57 AM   #22979
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Following 1lunger's lead I ordered the 27w light as well and have been planning my mount this evening. Looks like a standard 1-inch RAM ball mount can do the trick. I don't know the exact name/part number. But you could surely describe this to the regional distributer and determine which it is. I had to drill the metal bracket that came with the light. Bolted to the RAM and it works great. The light is heavy at 2 lbs but the RAM mount is rated to 5 lbs.

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I'm wiring in a switched BMW plug -- ala mini cigarette lighter. The switch will be on the bike side so that light will be plug and play and I can use it on both my Husky and my lighter trail bike. Hopefully this will facilitate some night trail rides this summer.
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Old 03-13-2012, 01:18 AM   #22980
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I have a garage that would work, but I'm on the north end of Whidbey Island.
I **may** be down for that. It seems forever far away, but OTOH really close to Vancouver Island if i get the bike done
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