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Old 03-07-2012, 11:23 AM   #23026
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Not trying to ruin my bike
Just improving the weak design parameters or estupid cost reductions.

The cam is OK, the material of the rocker arm is very soft and the material of cam is very hard, nothing happend.

The rocker bushings has a normal wear, the shaft of the bearing was very wore, really wore.

Please let us know yours whrn change the cam chain.

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I think it was more a crack about letting it go so far.

FWIW, I reckon it is absurd to need a top end rebuild every 10k when the typical Japanese bike will do close to 10x that.
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Old 03-07-2012, 12:22 PM   #23027
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LOl, hey I forgot about that part. good call. Yes I'm "in" I'm pretty sure I need a new chain as well.

Paging k7mdl to the white courtesy phone, Mr K7mdl do you have a local puller we might use? Maybe Marcin could bring it and some microbrew over the bridge
If you guys are planning a Seattle area Tech Day to check/replace cam chains I'd like in. Mine has never been done.

I have a puller that I think will fit.

My clutch needs some attention too. Most likely the bushing.
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Old 03-07-2012, 12:30 PM   #23028
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If you guys are planning a Seattle area Tech Day to check/replace cam chains I'd like in. Mine has never been done.

I have a puller that I think will fit.

My clutch needs some attention too. Most likely the bushing.
Likewise here on at least knowing date, time and place. Probably won't have the parts but would like to see it done.
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Old 03-07-2012, 12:32 PM   #23029
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If you guys are planning a Seattle area Tech Day to check/replace cam chains I'd like in. Mine has never been done.

I have a puller that I think will fit.

My clutch needs some attention too. Most likely the bushing.
Crap. My one day free for the next several weekends is March 25th... Unless y'all want to wait until late May
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Old 03-07-2012, 12:33 PM   #23030
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Crap. My one day free for the next several weekends is March 25th... Unless y'all want to wait until late May
Wait... that's not quite true... I could also do the weekend of April 21-22...
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Old 03-07-2012, 12:35 PM   #23031
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FWIW, I reckon it is absurd to need a top end rebuild every 10k when the typical Japanese bike will do close to 10x that.

Husky agrees and put the 510 dual cam head on the 630. BMW decided Husky doesn't need the 630 anymore.
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Old 03-07-2012, 01:07 PM   #23032
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Husky agrees and put the 510 dual cam head on the 630. BMW decided Husky doesn't need the 630 anymore.
Yep... That head is working out nicely so far too. It has held together well and is capable of some fairly serious horsepower with the right mods.
It leaves a bitter taste BMW canning the bike so quickly. Oh well, I came out of it with two 630s and they are still the most fun I have ever had on a single cylinder bike.
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Old 03-07-2012, 04:45 PM   #23033
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Not sure...

which one it was but the Hall's mechanic said it was at the top of the engine. They must have them in stock also so you may want to check with them if your guy doesn't have one. Sure is quieter and smoother but I didn't even notice it until now!!






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This one, right?



I had that on my bike. The nut was still sitting down in between the spark plug boot and the head. WAG is that the engine installation procedure had that loosely installed on the head before installing the engine in the frame, then the two M6 bolts at the other end of the bracket were installed, but the nut on the big bolt never got torqued. I'm guessing some monkey had too much wine at lunch that day, because the aluminum shoulder washer/bushings for the RHS radiator mounting were left out, too. It's taking the local dealer weeks to get them.
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Old 03-07-2012, 09:00 PM   #23034
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Yeah, do all that plus rocker shafts and bushings. We flipped your shafts to get some more wear out of them and they should be about done by now.

Replace the cam bearings while you're in there, cheap insurance.
I have often wondered if the cam bearing failures I have heard of have anything to do with the chain tension and the stock tensioner. Too tight?.....
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:30 AM   #23035
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I have often wondered if the cam bearing failures I have heard of have anything to do with the chain tension and the stock tensioner. Too tight?.....

I think the bearings are too small for a single cam. In my experience the cam chain was too loose with the stock tensioner, I was running the manual tensioner tighter and the chain "seemed" to be wearing slower...I wish I was made of money and could have rebuilt that bike again to see how things were wearing.
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Old 03-08-2012, 05:19 PM   #23036
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I think the bearings are too small for a single cam. In my experience the cam chain was too loose with the stock tensioner, I was running the manual tensioner tighter and the chain "seemed" to be wearing slower...I wish I was made of money and could have rebuilt that bike again to see how things were wearing.
The bearings may be too small for a single cam or they could be failing because the chain is too tight. Before I went to a manual adjuster I discovered the auto unit had overtightened itself on two occasions.
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Old 03-08-2012, 05:31 PM   #23037
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I'd have thought that the cam lobes opening and closing valves 2000-3000 times every minute would have been fairly hard on the bearings.
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Old 03-08-2012, 06:01 PM   #23038
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Can anyone help me set my bike at top dead center without pulling the valve cover off or other things of complicated nature.
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Old 03-08-2012, 06:11 PM   #23039
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Can anyone help me set my bike at top dead center without pulling the valve cover off or other things of complicated nature.

Pull the spark plug, put it in 6th, drop a straw into the cylinder, rotate the tire until the straw doesn't ride anymore...done.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:30 PM   #23040
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The bearings may be too small for a single cam or they could be failing because the chain is too tight. Before I went to a manual adjuster I discovered the auto unit had overtightened itself on two occasions.
Out of curiousity, how would one know know the CCT had overtightened itself? I just picked up a low mile 08 and was thinking of checking the number of clicks.
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