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Old 10-11-2006, 09:34 PM   #166
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Looks like the BMW 650 line is expanding!

Apparently this is the first look at the new bmw 650s. Exciting looking stuff!

http://news.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf...4201MWELET.htm

It's just pics, so it's leaves you drooling for details...

Any comments or speculation out there?
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:43 PM   #167
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Discussions have been ongoing for the past few days: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172350
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:45 PM   #168
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That first one looks like BMW made a real dual sport--neato.














Not sure about that third one though, KTM might want their Duke back.
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Old 10-11-2006, 10:53 PM   #169
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I get 186km per tank at 120km/h using BMW specs on the Xchallenge
Needs to be about twice that for long range touring IMO.
Wish the white plastics were the color of the frame or swing arm (easy to fix though)
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Old 10-12-2006, 03:54 AM   #170
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Apparently this is the first look at the new bmw 650s. Exciting looking stuff!
expanding to a line of very expensive dirtbikes with extremely expensive replacement parts....
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Old 10-12-2006, 03:59 AM   #171
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Here's my take on the BMW lineup:
Currently they have the F650GS single and then a big leap to the R1200 with a large chasm in between. BMW needs to attract younger, less well-heeled buyers to replace it's aging customer base and try to gain some market share. It's ironic then, that BMW has no supply of F650s to sell currently - or is it? My guess is BMW is intentionally trying to deplete its supply of F650s and will phase them out. Witness the retail price drop earlier this year.
Enter the G650 and the F800. The G650 is a stripped down, lower, lighter weight, and less expensive replacement for the F650GS, intended as a simple starter bike with no pretentions as an adventure or sport-touring bike. The F800 is a bigger, heavier and more expensive version to fill the gap between the 650 and the 1200 and will have an abundance of optional and aftermarket products available to set it up for travelling.
Personally, I think the G is a step down for an F owner. I also think that the biggest flaw in the F650 is its weight. If the F800 is heavier, It would be a hard sell on me.

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and add that f650 gs will be in the market one more year or at least till bmw sells new f800gs (dual sport bikes are so important for the brand). German cars makers always behaves this way: a golf ( american rabit) 1° serie was far smaller than la lst one they actually sell.
So next bike for a f650gs owner, in the bmw marketing people's minds, would be a f800.
I don't know how many f800 they sold till now in Italy, but some of the current owners don't appreciate it so much especially for shift's problems, it's very hard to make it work.
IMHO the bmw range will be g650 for youngers or as we say in Italy ( home-bar ( means café) bike) with maybe a version more travel oriented
F 800 as mid range
R/K 1200 boxer o 4 cyl high range with best seller in Italy like r1200gs
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Old 10-12-2006, 05:40 AM   #172
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So much for the F650 series! Rest in peace...
The King is dead! Long live the King!
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Old 10-12-2006, 06:37 AM   #173
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Hair and Gordy; Weight listed in the MOA linked PDF: Low unladen weight between 156 and 160 kg (344 and 353 lb).
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Old 10-12-2006, 11:46 AM   #174
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2.5 gallon tank...Kinda lame...It shows 9.5 L usable fuel which is 2.5 gallon...However .5 of that is reserve.

Per the stat sheet...

3.5 L per 100KM at 90 KPH continuous which equates to 168 miles to empty at 55 mph (BTW, my R12GS has the low fuel light at 160-170 mi)

5.0 L per 100KM at 120 KPH continuous which equates to 117 miles to empty at 75 mph

These figures are lean for most riders...Looks like the aftermarket tank market will have to step it up for the thumpers...
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Old 10-12-2006, 11:59 AM   #175
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Won't all that fuel make it heavy on one side?
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Old 10-12-2006, 05:41 PM   #176
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I really think BMW hit one out of the park on this one. These motorcycles show that BMW is really paying attention to this segment. I hope they sell well here in the states. It may cause some other manufacturers, like Yamaha, to wake the hell up.
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Old 10-13-2006, 08:58 AM   #177
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Does anyone know the ETA on this thing?

I would trade my f650 in for it in a heartbeat! I know BMWs are expensive but the financing is great which actually makes the bike less expensive on a month to month basis. Treat the bike like lease and trade it in. BMW actually gives a decent amount for a trade in of it's own kind. My local KTM dealer wanted nothing to do with my BMW as a trade in nor did any other bike shop for that matter. I know, the best route is selling the bike myself but I keep buying new bikes and wind up keeping the old ones. I gotta get the trick down of selling before buying . I hope this thing is priced like the f650 and not the HP2. Otherwise, I may have to make my f into a TT Oryx.



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G650X In Action, what kind of tires are those? I'd have to put some knobs on.
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:46 PM   #178
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Are these bikes coming to the states? If so, I want the Dual Sport version.
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Old 10-14-2006, 04:55 AM   #179
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Intelligent lightweight technology with a high degree of overall integration of the various components allows particularly low weight for a motorcycle in this class between 156 and 160 kg (344 and 353 lb), depending on the model (DIN unladen weight with 90 per cent tank filling). Dry weight, in turn, is between 144 and 148 kg or 318 and 326 lb.
I just went outside to weigh my DR. 158kgs (46/54%) including greases, juices, bulletproof bashplate, excellent forks , extra tools, original exhaust, fresh new Stone master rear tyre and an uncertain amount of fuel.

Not bad aye for stupid heavyweight technology with a low degree of overall integration of the various components!
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Old 10-14-2006, 08:43 AM   #180
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So where do you suppose they hid the battery this time, anything would be an improvement over the F's remove 14 Torx Screws dick dance to check acid...

The X Challenge (will there be a Reality Show?) could be the machine that brings me back to BWM's folds.
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