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Old 10-09-2006, 06:32 PM   #16
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Claimed weights are low (144-148kg or 317-326lb)

That's LC-4 territory, not too bad.
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Old 10-09-2006, 06:40 PM   #17
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DROOL FACTOR! How much $ or did I miss that part?
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Old 10-09-2006, 06:47 PM   #18
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Dayum.. I'm going to have to get a bigger garage!
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Old 10-09-2006, 06:51 PM   #19
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Claimed weights are low (144-148kg or 317-326lb)

That's LC-4 territory, not too bad.
And a 650cc Rotax at that! Bullet proof and easy to maintain. Hoo-wha! I'm psychd'!

Thanks for the scoop YP!
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Old 10-09-2006, 06:51 PM   #20
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That is HOT!!! I like it.
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Old 10-09-2006, 06:52 PM   #21
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TE-610 308 lbs
XR-650R 277 lbs
XR-650L 324 lbs
DRZ-400S 292 lbs
DR-650SE 324 lbs
BMW F-650 GS 425 lbs
KTM 640 Adv 348 lbs
KTM 640 E 326 lbs


Looks like it's slotted pretty competitively.
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Old 10-09-2006, 06:54 PM   #22
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nice set up

and there goes the bank
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Old 10-09-2006, 06:59 PM   #23
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Claimed weights are low (144-148kg or 317-326lb)

That's LC-4 territory, not too bad.

I've said it before and I will say it again. BMW always lies about fuel capacity and weight. It never fails.
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:05 PM   #24
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The last bit is interesting:

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Any optional extras?
We could fill the mag: there's everything from ABS and pillion footpegs to crash pads, luggage and Akrapovic exhausts.
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:06 PM   #25
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Looks like the Hard Enduro will be a stripped down version of the Aprilia Trail:







and the Xmoto a rebadged Aprilia Strada:





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Old 10-09-2006, 07:27 PM   #26
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I like the looks of those G class bikes.... so why keep the F650GS alive if they can just create a GS out of the new G class, and other G class derived bikes; enduro, etc.. who will want to buy an F650 when they can have a choice of these?? I guess price will be higher on these..

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Old 10-09-2006, 07:42 PM   #27
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looks a sight better than this


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Old 10-09-2006, 07:46 PM   #28
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Just spotted this in Thumpertalk:
You saw it there, because I saw it here, and posted it there.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172350
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:57 PM   #29
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Looks like the Hard Enduro will be a stripped down version of the Aprilia Trail:





The Aprilia Pegaso 650 Trail is the Italian version of the F650GS already. As you've already seen from the Aprilia website - it has very similar specs and components. Aprilia has slightly larger fork tube diameter, and I think it has a dual piston on the front brakes, but has much less alternator output, same weight and suspension. Engine is also different because of BMW licensing with Rotax for their version of the 652 (output is on opposite side of engine). You probably also know that Aprilia and BWM worked together on the F650 years ago, and some generations of the F650 were actually produced and assembled by Aprilia. The new G650 appears to have same engine as current F650 - based on the picture above.

It'll be real interesting to see how the specs really do play out, and how much lighter the bike really is, and if it has serious enough suspension to get it done in the woods.

Don't know if it will be an "F" killer, as it looks like it is made for a single rider only, and who knows how strong the subframe is for carrying extra "adventure" wear/gear through the woods. Seat looks like a typical enduro - short ride seat.

Wish we had a better picture - looks like the frame for the XChallenger is different than the X-Country and X-Moto. Engine side case also looks different than current engine, but water pump looks the same.

I wonder what the price point will be if BMW is trying to attract more younger riders?

Hmmmm......can't wait to see more.....
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Old 10-10-2006, 02:17 AM   #30
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The current Aprilia Pegaso (both the trail and the "SM" version) are built around a Yamaha engine. That new BMW seems to be sporting a revised version of the engine found in the F650GS. No similarities here.

The new BMW has USD forks on every version, where the Apriller has conventional ones. The Aprilia has the chain on the left side, where the BMW has it on the right side. I do not see many similarities between these two bikes, and I'm pretty sure that apart from things like controls, the wheels on the SM version, and the brakes, there aren't that much common parts. Not the frame, and not the engines.

The die hard version will not be a stripped down Aprilia Pegaso trail, but more some sort of a well built LC4 competitor imho.

I might even want one!
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