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Old 12-22-2010, 10:06 AM   #4966
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Yeah but alien ships are now made in China too. That's why one crashed in Roswell.
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Old 12-22-2010, 12:20 PM   #4967
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Quick question to see if anyone can offer any wisdom as to why my 2008 X Challenge won't start.

I drained the battery by leaving an accessory outlet and the GPS it was powering on. After successfully re-charging I put the battery back in and the dash lit up like it should (all the lights on, the rear wheel diameter came up etc..) and then..... nothing. All goes blank and no chance of ignition.

Wondering if there is a simple fix or I am missing something. I checked all fuses (I could find) and all are OK.

I have it booked in to get checked out in about a week but wouldn't mind saving the trip if it can be fixed simply.

thanks - Crackin
Same thing happened to me several times. Turn key on, everything comes on, then everything goes off, dash and lights, wont start. Took it in the the Dealer and it was the ign switch. Replaced it under warrenty and no problem since.
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Old 12-22-2010, 02:48 PM   #4968
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Same thing happened to me several times. Turn key on, everything comes on, then everything goes off, dash and lights, wont start. Took it in the the Dealer and it was the ign switch. Replaced it under warrenty and no problem since.
Dang. Mine has started doing that and it's out of warranty.

Did it ever make you walk? Mine works after I turn the switch back and forth several times, and I'm wondering if I can go a while before having it addressed -- like at my 6k service in a month or so.
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Old 12-22-2010, 02:53 PM   #4969
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A few guys have said that they took the switch off and checked the soldering in the bottom and there were hairline cracks in the solder on one or more wires. They carefully soldered them and no more troubles.

The hardest part is getting the ignition switch off in the first place.
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Old 12-23-2010, 12:31 AM   #4970
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Having just pulled my bike apart into individual pieces, almost every piece on the bike has "Italy" or "made in Italy" stamped on it, except the engine which has "Made in Austria" stamped on it. About the only bits that seem German are the FI system, made by Bosch and BMW, and the rims. Obviously the suspension and brakes are Italian. All the metal work is Italian, all the electrics and switchgear (apart from FI) are Italian. Even the panels are Italian.

As for the production point saying Berlin ... I would not read anything into that. My guess is every BMW motorcycle says Berlin on that system, since officially it is the only assembly line BMW has for Motorcycles worldwide. They arent exactly going to say "Noale Italy" are they - they dont have a factory there. If they do anything in Berlin, it might be to fire up and test the bikes and put the BMW badges on the sides before shipping them out.
Very interesting. I lost you in your last 2 sentences... if the only factory is in Berlin then don't they integrate all the subassemblies there (regardless of who and where they are shipped in from) and not simply fire up bikes that were assembled somewhere else? Or is there some secret or wink, wink I'm ignorant of?

Or are you simply saying - sure they may be assembled in Berlin but not many components are German made anymore...

Ok here is a weird piece of information. My dealer has ordered the ONLY swingarm available in stock and it is coming from Germany. Now the available swingarms in stock shows ZERO with a new availability date of about a month out. This implies some place somewhere, "they" are firing up the parts line and cranking out another swingarm or 2...

This is really weird to me because I've only heard of 2 other swingarms every breaking, and that says they really didn't have many spare ones sitting on a shelf - or they simply used them all up in new bikes. Just seems like a small number of parts but maybe they are that careful in minimizing inventory, if so that is impressive!
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Old 12-23-2010, 01:24 AM   #4971
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To my knowledge nothing else uses that swing-arm.
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Old 12-23-2010, 12:22 PM   #4972
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To my knowledge nothing else uses that swing-arm.
All I know is the XCountry and XChallenge have the same swingarm part number in the fiche I can see online: 33177696651
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Old 12-23-2010, 12:33 PM   #4973
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New Dual Sport web site for resources like GPS tracks.

Off topic post perhaps but wanted to share it with the only guys I know on Adv - the G650X crowd! I know nothing about this yet but it looks cool, especially for GPS tracks and ride reports. As far as I can tell quickly, these are *resources* for Dual Sport riders, NOT a retailer selling accessories (though they do have sponsors).

A brand new website called: DualSportMoto.com
and especially their GPS tracks page which requires you to login at this other GPS tracks site: DualSportMaps.com

Heard about it here on AMA District 37 Dual Sport forum.
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Old 12-23-2010, 01:27 PM   #4974
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To my knowledge nothing else uses that swing-arm.
I think Kymco used them on a scooter that was built by Aprilia in Berlin but only sold in Ukraine. HD lost the bid.

(Perhaps I'm overanalyzing. Eating mistletoe may be the cause.)
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Old 12-23-2010, 02:44 PM   #4975
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That's so crazy it must be true.
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Old 12-23-2010, 03:02 PM   #4976
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Let's spread the word then.
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Old 12-23-2010, 05:16 PM   #4977
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I finally found a moment to check if a Factory Effex cover would fit on the X-Challenge seat...No go..not even close..
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Old 12-24-2010, 09:47 AM   #4978
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Here's a heads up for anyone with a BMW G650X model, preferably near Las Vegas, and wishing to help get the new Dynojet PowerCommander V -version ready: a donor bike is needed.

The PC V-model isn't quite ready yet for the G650X bikes, although there is a part number and a price tag on it on the site.

Dynojet has stated, upon my queries and proposal, that a donor G650X bike would be great to have to further the development of the PC5 for this model. Unfortunately Dynojet have not found one [donor bike] at this point.


So anyone nearby Dynojet research center in Las Vegas: if you could lend your bike for a little while as a donor to Dynojet for some testing purposes, they would appreciate it, and so would the rest of the G650X riding community, I'm sure. I cannot promise anything on Dynojet's behalf, but I'd be surprised if they charged you much of anything for your help, hopefully you might have a nicely tuned PC V to ride away with for next to nothing, if not for free.


If you think you can help with your G650X, contact them directly:

Dynojet Research Inc.
2191 Mendenhall Dr. Suite 105
North Las Vegas, NV 89081
1-800-992-4993 (and ask for Chris Kelly)


I have no stake in this, other than hoping to see the PC V get ready. And yes, I would like to eventually buy one, too. :)
Last June I loaded up the X here in Seattle and made the journey to Colorado Springs to race in the 2010 Pikes Peak International Hill Climb. I made no adjustments to the motor other then drilling a few holes in the plastic air box cover and running Sonoco race gas. The bike performed well at altitude (the race finish line is at 14,000 above sea level), in fact it actually felt a bit stronger then normal here at sea level. The interesting thing is that I loaded the bike for the trip home at elevation 9,000 + and when I got home the bike ran like a beast unleashed (I could pull the front off the ground in 3rd gear!) although the performance gain did not continue for very long when the computer and sensors figured out it was at sea level. As I ride this bike daily Im very in tune with it so this is not an aberration.

My point is, this motor has so much more potential than we are allowed to have in its stock configuration that its a damn shame. A power commander would help us all if it were to allow us anything close to what I personally experienced this motor capable of. Its a pity that the numbers of Xs sold dont support the aftermarket industry enough to make the investments that would benefit the bikes performance.

With that said, If anyone would consider shipping their bike to Dynojet I for one will help sponor the costs (others perhaps?), if we join in together we can all help bring this thing to market and reap the benefit of this motors capabilities! As my x is my daily "driver" I can't part with it or else I'd be shipping the thing to Vegas. It sure would be nice if someone in that area would jump in!
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Old 12-24-2010, 09:54 AM   #4979
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I have an XCHallenge with about 750 miles on it plus some farkly stuff too. Do you think I will have trouble selling it if I decide to. Is there much of a demand for this bike anymore.
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