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Old 08-14-2012, 10:45 AM   #7366
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I have used both types of chains. ORing chains are not suppose to need lubed. If you feel you must lube your chain get a non oring. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:54 AM   #7367
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I have used both types of chains. ORing chains are not suppose to need lubed. If you feel you must lube your chain get a non oring. Just my 2 cents.
Really? I didn't know that.
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Old 08-14-2012, 03:00 PM   #7368
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So the XT I'm riding is almost completely stock and its never given me a bit of problems until two weeks ago. Since then I've gotten stranded twice. Luckily one was at work so no biggie but the other (first time) I was in the woods and was missing a couple tools needed to get to the jets (I had a pretty good idea what was wrong with it)

Anyways, I'm gonna be out in the garage cleaning the carb now.

I guess I'll order a fuel filter but just wondering why this happens? is it because of the metal tanks are prone to rusting? Only other bike I've had that did this was a Gas Gas 300 trials bike and i think it had a metal tank as well..
Mine did that to me the other day as well. Surprising amount of grit in the bowel. I'm installing fuel filters on all bikes now to prevent it going forward. I just put a new clarke tank on it and on the first fill I could see dirt swimming around in the tank from the pump. Same deal on a DR with a brand new (and properly cleaned before installation) IMS clear tank. Filled up at a different gas station and looky all the grit settling to the bottom of the tank.
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Old 08-14-2012, 03:10 PM   #7369
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altitude jetting

Ok - heading to the mountains soon and wanted to confirm jetting specs:

For riding up to 13K ft. -
115 Main jet
35 pilot
Snorkel pulled out

Does this sound right? It's the best Ive gathered from searching this site and others. I don't want to drill holes in the airbox etc. My bike is completely stock; which is the way I like it. Any other recommendations?

I saw this as well, but there's no mention of changing the pilot jet:
http://www.formtechservices.com/dirt...com/Rejet.html

Thanks!

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Old 08-14-2012, 03:49 PM   #7370
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Mine did that to me the other day as well. Surprising amount of grit in the bowel.
Guess you're an ass man.
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Old 08-14-2012, 04:51 PM   #7371
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Surprising amount of grit in the bowel.
Well, nuts!
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Old 08-14-2012, 04:53 PM   #7372
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I've been running Dupont Teflon Multi-purpose Dry Wax lubricant in a spray can forever ...
Likewise. Good stuff!
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Old 08-14-2012, 04:59 PM   #7373
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Mine did that to me the other day as well. Surprising amount of grit in the bowel.

Now that's what I call recycling... TP becomes sandpaper!
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Old 08-14-2012, 06:17 PM   #7374
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@GI_Joe Instead of trying to get an on line arguement started begin a discussion on the best oil for a motorcycle. You'll get alot more responses.
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Old 08-14-2012, 06:20 PM   #7375
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Or ask what is the best dual sport tire for motorcycle in question.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:30 PM   #7376
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Chain & Sprockets

Hi Bob,

Thinking back to my dirt bikes of the '70s & '80's, I would never go back to non-O or X ring chains. They constantly needed adjustment, lubing, and cleaning. And, they didn't last that long. Comparing that routine with getting 17-20k on either a KLR650 or a 100+ hp FZ1. Can you tell which way I'm leaning?
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:54 AM   #7377
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Hi Bob,

Thinking back to my dirt bikes of the '70s & '80's, I would never go back to non-O or X ring chains. They constantly needed adjustment, lubing, and cleaning. And, they didn't last that long. Comparing that routine with getting 17-20k on either a KLR650 or a 100+ hp FZ1. Can you tell which way I'm leaning?
Hi Rich! Hard to say on the KLR but on the FZ you're leaning forward. LOL

Thanks for all the feedback. Many good points that I agree with. Here's a bit more context.

One third of the miles (~8k) on the stock chain were put on this past year. I rarely adjusted the chain in four seasons prior. I commuted rain or shine and kept it garaged at home and work. What's different now with full time RVing is the bike is in the elements almost always. Carrying it across the front of my truck soaks the bike good driving rain. I bet that's when rust snuck into chain links. Once it started kinking I could hear sprocket teeth being gnawed. I have to lube the chain often to slow down rust. Even a glorious O ring chain, so it's value is limited. (O rings may work against spray lube getting where it's needed.) If I have to replace one or two chains a season, I'd rather sacrifice standard not premium ones. If replaced when kinking first started and before stretching follows, hopefully that'd spare the sprocket teeth from abuse. Alternating two chains dovetails that thinking. Any flaw in the logic?
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:35 AM   #7378
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You might as well go ahead and try it. It won't cost much to try, and maybe you will like it. If you don't like it the experiment was cheap, and you gained the knowledge. Otherwise you'll keep on wondering....


Now, if you really want to do an experiment....
Get an O-ring "and" a regular chain, and make a 50/50 hybrid chain made of 1/2 a length of each. Then you can test both of them at the same time, and under the exact same conditions.

That's what ol' Ben Franklin would'a done, if he was a biker.
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Old 08-15-2012, 07:48 AM   #7379
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Bob,
You might as well go ahead and try it. It won't cost much to try, and maybe you will like it. If you don't like it the experiment was cheap, and you gained the knowledge. Otherwise you'll keep on wondering....


Now, if you really want to do an experiment....
Get an O-ring "and" a regular chain, and make a 50/50 hybrid chain made of 1/2 a length of each. Then you can test both of them at the same time, and under the exact same conditions.

That's what ol' Ben Franklin would'a done, if he was a biker.
Glenn, high marks for creativity. I doubt a hybrid chain would've ever occurred to me.

Ole BF was a frugalitarian. Surely he would've appreciated the XT225.
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:43 AM   #7380
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Mine did that to me the other day as well. Surprising amount of grit in the bowel. I'm installing fuel filters on all bikes now to prevent it going forward. I just put a new clarke tank on it and on the first fill I could see dirt swimming around in the tank from the pump. Same deal on a DR with a brand new (and properly cleaned before installation) IMS clear tank. Filled up at a different gas station and looky all the grit settling to the bottom of the tank.
So I bought a small clear inline fuel filter at the local saw shop . But at WOT it does not seem to deliver enough fuel (starts cutting out, sputtering). Everywhere else on the power band feels great except at the top.

I suppose I could go up one step on the main but the bike seemed to be running great before the fuel filter with the snorkel off. I have tried the fuel filter both ways, seemed to make no difference.

So, up a jet, or better fuel filter?

This is the fuel filter I got. Brand name PrimeLine.
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