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Old 01-16-2009, 02:37 PM   #181
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I didn't know it was so bad, I just envisioned a place where truckers and families stopped for a rest.
It's not "so bad" and they are just places where truckers and families stop for a rest.

Lots of rest areas are manned with guards. Occasionally a news story will pop up about a rape or robbery at a rest area, and it gets far more publicity than rapes and robberies at other places.

Unfortunately, crime at rest areas deters tourism, so states often go to extreme measures to stop it, including shutting down the rest areas themselves. Can't have any tourist-scaring crime at rest areas if there aren't any rest areas.

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Old 01-16-2009, 06:20 PM   #182
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I'm thinking bear spray might be a good compromise between a firearm or nothing. To be honest, mummy bags and bivy sacks also worry me. Way too confining. You could be shit-kicked before you had a chance to get free of the bag.
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Old 01-16-2009, 08:38 PM   #183
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It's not "so bad" and they are just places where truckers and families stop for a rest.
At least for the deep southern gulf states: The visitor's centers near the state lines are generally better patrolled but DO NOT go to sleep outside a vehicle in the more remote rest areas. Seriously.
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:39 PM   #184
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last time through kansas I slept on a picnic table off to the side by myself. I used to drive semi's and spent plenty of time in rest areas so I know how they are. I've done it plenty over the years and never had a problem but like anything ,you never know. if no other people are around is when I'm a little leary and will move on. last time in florida they had law enforcement stationed at rest stops all night to prevent problems.
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:02 PM   #185
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In the west, the seedier rest stops are the ones near closer to large cities.

All of them in SoCal are sketchy, for example.

The nicest one I've seen was in Idaho. Taj Mahal of rest stops.
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Old 04-08-2009, 08:59 PM   #186
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you know, I've NEVER had any issues when pulling up late to a gas station in the middle of nowhere, setting up a tent off to the side somewhere, and sticking a note on their door:

I arrived late, you were closed. I wasn't sure where the next gas stop would be, and decided to wait for you to open up. When I wake up you can expect to sell me some coffee, gas, and munchies. Thank-you.

Can't tell you how often that first fresh hot cup of coffee was free.

THAT is pure Brilliance ! I am going to use that idea, polite, and electricity, or bathroom, water etc !
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Old 05-18-2010, 05:04 PM   #187
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Wow, this thread has some simply amazing idea's and shared resources! I have always found backroads a non-issue as well. Churches and some remote rest stops have never given me a problem either. Also had a Super 8 Motel Manager give me a space in their backyard and a shower in the morning for three bucks...talk about customer service!

Always open to trying out new places if anyone is in Southern California!
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Old 05-18-2010, 05:14 PM   #188
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Old 05-18-2010, 05:27 PM   #189
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It took me a long time to get away from tents, but if you want to go minimalist, go to Campmor.com or one of those places and get yourself a lightweight backpacking hammock (they even carry one in camo). You can pack REALLY light that way, and if you are worried about rain just get a small tarp to cover up with. See, with the hammock you can just park your bike any old conspicuous place and it hardly matters, walk back in the woods and set up your hammock have a great night's sleep. For some reason it seems the perception for people is that since you don't have a tent, your not really setting up and using their property without consent. Many times I get a smile and a laugh, if anyone even sees me. You can get away with this in some pretty urban areas too, woods near a park, behind industrial parks, anywhere really.
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Old 05-19-2010, 07:42 AM   #190
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It took me a long time to get away from tents, but if you want to go minimalist, go to Campmor.com or one of those places and get yourself a lightweight backpacking hammock.
A good idea, but it makes one dependent on trees or other stable structures.

http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___26290
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Old 05-20-2010, 12:26 PM   #191
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I'd sleep almost anywhere before a rest stop. From a criminal's standpoint, it's superb hunting. Quick entrance & exit, people not paying attention, open 24/7, and often with people from out of the area, carrying money & valuables, and enforcement spotty or not close enough to interfere.

There are much better places to stop. Behind a church, or a building, hidden on a side road, etc.


If I were a No-Goodnick I'd be looking for prey in a rest stop
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Old 05-20-2010, 12:38 PM   #192
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I was roused at about 4 or 5am by a pair of friendly cops that said the staff at the carehome whose property I was on had called and wanted to make sure I was gone before management came in in the morning. I packed up and it actually turned out to be great to get an early start on that day.

I intend on doing a lot more boondocking this summer, those campground fees add up!
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Old 05-20-2010, 06:34 PM   #193
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It's not "so bad" and they are just places where truckers and families stop for a rest.

Lots of rest areas are manned with guards. Occasionally a news story will pop up about a rape or robbery at a rest area, and it gets far more publicity than rapes and robberies at other places.

Unfortunately, crime at rest areas deters tourism, so states often go to extreme measures to stop it, including shutting down the rest areas themselves. Can't have any tourist-scaring crime at rest areas if there aren't any rest areas.

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I think you're naively dismissing what is a real problem. Crime is unfortunately quite rampant, from property theft to assaults. Don't take my word on it tho, seriously ask a state trooper the next time you see one about crime in rest stops, ask specifically whether sleeping there would be advisable.

I even saved you the trouble of a search, just start perusing the articles:

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=...8&fr=yfp-t-701
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Old 05-20-2010, 06:44 PM   #194
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Crime is unfortunately quite rampant, from property theft to assaults.
I gotta agree. Arkansas rest areas can be quite scary places esp late at night. I've had a couple of "incidents" there (like a guy following my wife into the women's restroom). Don't know about other states. But I've never seen a guard at a rest area in Arkansas and rarely a LEO.
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:13 PM   #195
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I think you're naively dismissing what is a real problem. Crime is unfortunately quite rampant, from property theft to assaults. Don't take my word on it tho, seriously ask a state trooper the next time you see one about crime in rest stops, ask specifically whether sleeping there would be advisable.

I even saved you the trouble of a search, just start perusing the articles:

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=...8&fr=yfp-t-701
I'm quite surprised I wrote what I wrote. That was a year ago... and like you wrote, a rest stop is the last place I'll consider for a place to stay. I think sometimes I like to dispute people who think that everyone is out to get them.

That said, I've found quite a few rural rest areas (Texas is great for those) which are pretty remote, and I'd feel safe staying. I'm rarely on the interstate system, so perhaps when I made my comments based on my experience with the old CCC-built roadside rests.

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