The XT600 Thread

[Whorepedo]

Ive got Pirelli Scorpions on mine that ive been pretty happy with. theyre lasting really well and have decent traction for when i want to go offroad.

Ill have to get back to you on the sizes.

[nobody]

Originally Posted by Whorepedo

what condition are the plastics in? how much for both rear sides and tail? What about a price on the wheels, too??

PM me or email me - whorepedo@gmail.com

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Claudio

[CR_TurboGuy]

I'm running the Mefo Explorers on my 90 XT. Got them from http://www.klr650.com/MEFO%20Sport%20Trail.html , 90/90-21 I think on the front and 130/80-17 on the rear. So far I've got about 2k on the back and still wearing nicely. Some people are reporting up to 7k out of a set. They are much more street friendly than my previous MT21's and are wearing much better. Still hold up decent in the gravel & made it up a muddy, rocky b-level road a few weeks ago.

--JOsh

[XT Thumper]

Hey guys-- hope someone can shed some light here-- no pun.

I was riding my '86 xt600 when I came around a corner and there was a car.
I switched my brights off and ALL my lights quit working(headlights brake lights turn signals ect).

I checked the fuse over the battery-- not tripped.
Headlight appears blown, but the elect. schematics seem to indicate this wouldn't cause all the lights to go out.

Any ideas--

Thanks

[Boatman]

Okay... while you are all pondering the answer to XT Thumpers question maybe you can answer mine also. I need to mount some rally lighting on my '88,,, how much power do I have to play with??? I was thinking of replacing the stock H4 bulb with an HID and then a pair of PIAA's at 75w each. Yea or POOF???

[alexk243]

Originally Posted by Boatman

Okay... while you are all pondering the answer to XT Thumpers question maybe you can answer mine also. I need to mount some rally lighting on my '88,,, how much power do I have to play with??? I was thinking of replacing the stock H4 bulb with an HID and then a pair of PIAA's at 75w each. Yea or POOF???

I just put two walmart 55w driving lights on mine and kept the stock headlight bulb. The alternator struggles to keep up, but according to my voltmeter, the voltage stays constant at cruising speed (they do drain the battery at stops though).

[xtphreak]

Originally Posted by XT Thumper

Hey guys-- hope someone can shed some light here-- no pun.

I was riding my '86 xt600 when I came around a corner and there was a car.
I switched my brights off and ALL my lights quit working(headlights brake lights turn signals ect).

I checked the fuse over the battery-- not tripped.
Headlight appears blown, but the elect. schematics seem to indicate this wouldn't cause all the lights to go out.

Any ideas--

Thanks

first of all, I don't have a specific schematic for an 80's series XT600 (no electric starter), so this is based off a schematic for a 90's series E model (with electric starter)

do you have a DMM or VOM?
comfortable with using it?

start checking at the fuse, does it look ok or did you check to see either voltage on the side away from the battery or 0 ohms across the fuse (out of the holder)?

I'd try voltage first, it'll show you what's cruddy/high resistance/open.

if you don't have one, try Harbor Freight, they have a small digital meter on sale for $2.99 this week (includes battery and has a back light and leads) #90899 ... well in the flyer I got it was, looks like it's $4.99 online

looking at the schematic, the headlights, high beam indicator bulb and the speedo backlight are fed from the same circuit (Brown wire out of main switch) as the starter relay / solenoid / igniter on the E models.

The tail light / brake light / flashers are fed off another circuit (Blue wire out of main switch).

the power source is common until the ignition switch, I'd suspect a problem in that section if as you said, the flashers, tail / brake light lost power with the headlights.

but be sure of your initial "facts".

Is the headlight truely "blown"? pull the plug and see if there's voltage at the plug stabs.
pull the bulb and measure the resistance across all 3 contacts, there should be 2 combinations with continuity, one without.




need more help ... post or PM me

[xtphreak]

Originally Posted by Boatman

Okay... while you are all pondering the answer to XT Thumpers question maybe you can answer mine also. I need to mount some rally lighting on my '88,,, how much power do I have to play with??? I was thinking of replacing the stock H4 bulb with an HID and then a pair of PIAA's at 75w each. Yea or POOF???

look at post #236

Originally Posted by xtphreak

try ONE of the two lights and see how the voltage is ...

basically if you drop below 13v (+/-), you're not putting any energy in the battery ... at some point you'll be drawing energy outta the battery, shortening battery life but increasing opportunities to exercise yourself as you try and bump start it.

I run a 35w aux light, and since my battery is like 6 years old, I see the effects in the warning LED on my dynatek monitor flashing when I drop to idle, hit turn signals, etc.

page 2-15 in the manual shows the capacity as 13.5A @ 14 VDC .... AT 5000 rpm

below that engine speed you get less juice

that's 189 watts @ 5000 rpm...

so far, same same

what wattage (load, not light output) is the HID you have/are considering?

I'll guess 35w, is it a moveable HID capsule or is there a HID Low Beam with an Haleogen High beam???



minus 35w for the headlight = 154w
minus 75w for ONE aux light = 79w

now right here you're at the same load as alexk243

Originally Posted by xtphreak

...
minus 8w for tail light = 71w
minus 3.4w for meter backlight = 67.6w

High beam adds 5w more + 3.4w for another indicator light = 8.4w

stomp the brake and drop another 27w

oh, if the front running lights are hooked up that's another 16w (2X8w each)

anyway, you're pushing it toooo far ...

might I suggest that you use a pair of 30w HIDs (like Trail Techs) instead of the Hellas?

you'll get more light for the power load of one Hella, probably cheaper too, but I haven't looked.

2 HIDs = 60w
189w-60w= 139w
139w- 55w (stock headlight) = 84w for "house load" as described above

[Boatman]

Hey,, thanks for the info,,, sorry I didn't read though all of the old posts.

I'm setting the bike up for RallyMoto at Black River Stages in Sept. There are night stages and although I don't think I can out ride the stock light, that is deer, moose and bear country so I'd like some more light.

I already have the PIAA's on my GS and it's like some one turned on the switch to the sun when I power them up. OK on the GS but I wasn't sure the XT would handle them. Plus I only need the lighting for this one time so I don't want to spend a ton if I don't need to.

This, http://www.futurevisionhid.com/9003-...kit-p-130.html is the kit I'm thinking of for the stock headlight. 35W, solenoid actuated high/low.

I just double checked my PIAA's and they are 55W not 75W each.


So if I read you correctly I have 189W to play with excluding my stock headlight. That would be okay then I guess.....

HID head light 35
PIAA's 110
TOTAL 145

So 44W to spare.

Originally Posted by xtphreak

look at post #236



so far, same same

what wattage (load, not light output) is the HID you have/are considering?

I'll guess 35w, is it a moveable HID capsule or is there a HID Low Beam with an Haleogen High beam???



minus 35w for the headlight = 154w
minus 75w for ONE aux light = 79w

now right here you're at the same load as alexk243



might I suggest that you use a pair of 30w HIDs (like Trail Techs) instead of the Hellas?

you'll get more light for the power load of one Hella, probably cheaper too, but I haven't looked.

2 HIDs = 60w
189w-60w= 139w
139w- 55w (stock headlight) = 84w for "house load" as described above

[Olas]

Anyone know what the difference is betweent a 92 XT600ED and EDC?

[CR_TurboGuy]

Originally Posted by Olas Altas

Anyone know what the difference is betweent a 92 XT600ED and EDC?

My guess would be the EDC is California spec.

--JOsh

[xtphreak]

Originally Posted by CR_TurboGuy

My guess would be the EDC is California spec.

--JOsh

[kmikec]

Need advise, found a 84 XT600 for a project bike. The guy said that it runs? Going to look at it on Tues. My question ..is there still parts avaliable for these old thumpers or should I look for a newer model. I should be able to pick it up for a about $200 bucks..............thanks

[xtphreak]

Originally Posted by kmikec

Need advise, found a 84 XT600 for a project bike. The guy said that it runs? Going to look at it on Tues. My question ..is there still parts avaliable for these old thumpers or should I look for a newer model. I should be able to pick it up for a about $200 bucks..............thanks

go to http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmot...l-1984/o/m8377

flip thru thru the parts lists and see how many parts are grayed out.

those are the ones that they can't get from yamahaha

other than that, your local dealer can still get most parts, usually as cheap as internet pricing plus shipping

[kmikec]

xtphreak, thanks for the help. The bike is looking better already.