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Old 07-27-2013, 08:06 AM   #4351
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Copper washers

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Center right side. If you pull the head and cylinder there is an extra gasket like a collar around it. They do not come with top end gasket sets, only whole engine sets. Doesn't make much sense to me but they didn't ask. thumpthump
I was referring to the rocker box bolts, not the head to cylinder. My Clymer manual says copper washers go on the two center Rocker Box bolts marked with a "W" beside each bolt. Mine did not have any washers there at all. Is the only oil passage where you indicate the extra gasket is between the head and cylinder? If so, then the two center bolts with the "W" are NOT an oil passage and would not need a copper washer to seal the passage. In looking at it, I don't see how they could be an oil passage. Probably just an error in the manual.

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Old 07-27-2013, 12:11 PM   #4352
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Replacement CDI

Has anyone used one of the aftermarket CDI units produced in New Zealand? Since the OEM unit is unavailable from Yamaha I need to replace a defective unit and really don't want to chance getting one on eBay and have it fail. They are all getting old and could fail shortly. I like the newer technology adjustable advance curve supposedly in the new unit.

I am just curious if anyone on here has actually used one and what their impressions are of the unit.

Thanks,
steve

I received a personal message from a member here on the XT550 thread explaining that the advance curve on the stock and aftermarket CDI's is a smooth curve and not a jump from 18 to 36 degrees. So I interpret that to mean the two trigger magnets on the fly wheel are just markers and the CDI uses those trigger points to adjust the advance curve depending on RPM.

I have ordered two of the New Zealand units for my 600's and will report here as performance...

So far I have gotten favorable responses to the HPI unit from Belgium and Hyperpak from New Zealand. I will be ordering one or two of them from one of those suppliers.

Thank You to all who have replied. This is what makes this forum very valuable, good info that is hard to find anywhere else.

S
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Old 07-31-2013, 07:20 AM   #4353
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PDF version of shop manual

Does anyone have an electronic version (scanned pages) of an 80's model of an XT600 or know where I can download one?

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Steve
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Old 07-31-2013, 09:13 AM   #4354
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Programable CDI

Stay tuned for a new product announcement after some testing. A replacement fully programmable ignition curve, CDI module for the earlier XT600/550's. If you might be interested, let me know. I am only a tester, not the manufacturer. Can't say more now.

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Old 07-31-2013, 08:21 PM   #4355
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Stay tuned for a new product announcement after some testing. A replacement fully programmable ignition curve, CDI module for the earlier XT600/550's. If you might be interested, let me know. I am only a tester, not the manufacturer. Can't say more now.

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I can say yes!
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Old 07-31-2013, 08:55 PM   #4356
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84 to 87 Xt600 service manual

I found an OEM Paper manual on eBay...

Does anyone have a PDF version of the OEM Yamaha manual for the 84 to 87 XT600. I have found every other model it seems but not this series. I have a Clymer manual but can see it does not have the detail the factory manual has. I am trying to learn how all the functions work, carb circuits, CDI advance curve, oil passages etc.

Since I will be testing a programmable CDI I'd like to see the "official" advance curve for this bike. I have it for several other models and there are differences. I noticed the later bikes even have an RPM limiter. this new programable unit will have that as well that you can set to what ever you want the limit to be. Saves having to worry about over reving....

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Old 08-02-2013, 08:27 PM   #4357
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speedo cable

Hi guys,

Yesterday I've realized the speedo is dead (and the odo has gone as well, obviously). Removed the cable-case at the wheel and the last 20cm of the cable came out. It's broken all right. I am surprised as the cable is well lubricated, I did not expext this at all.

Whatever, I went to the yamaha store nearby and found they closed down. :(

At the other shop (general bike stuff and workshop) ordered me an aftermarket one for TT, 'couse the system suggested that for the XT also. I hope it will fit properly. If it doesn't, do you have any idea where should I order one from the net?

Thanks heaps

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Old 08-03-2013, 07:05 AM   #4358
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Speedo cable

Here is one on Partzilla.net in Georgia USA for a mid-80's XT600.

15 34X-83550-01-00
SPEEDOMETER CABLE ASSEMBLY
$21.95 $16.00

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/searc...TER/parts.html
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Old 08-03-2013, 11:21 AM   #4359
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I found an OEM Paper manual on eBay...

Does anyone have a PDF version of the OEM Yamaha manual for the 84 to 87 XT600. I have found every other model it seems but not this series. I have a Clymer manual but can see it does not have the detail the factory manual has. I am trying to learn how all the functions work, carb circuits, CDI advance curve, oil passages etc.

Since I will be testing a programmable CDI I'd like to see the "official" advance curve for this bike. I have it for several other models and there are differences. I noticed the later bikes even have an RPM limiter. this new programable unit will have that as well that you can set to what ever you want the limit to be. Saves having to worry about over reving....

Steve
Steve, you could search for the XT550 manual, there is one floating around on the internet. It has at least some of the info you need, at least it has the ignition advance curve. The CDI is more or less the same as the XT600 one.
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:21 PM   #4360
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Here is one on Partzilla.net in Georgia USA for a mid-80's XT600.

15 34X-83550-01-00
SPEEDOMETER CABLE ASSEMBLY
$21.95 $16.00

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/searc...TER/parts.html
Thanks steveloomis, I am not 100% sure it is the same cable.
I hope there wasn't major changes in the production years, but mine is an XT600EP (2003). Don't ask what the P means, the E is the sign for an electronic starter luxury :)
This was the last prod. year as far as I know. We'll see in a week time, if the ordered part doesn't fit, I'll go for the link you shared w/ me.

Cheers,

P
ps: it is silly, just noticed how often I have a look at the speedo while I'm riding :))) classic citydweller, eh?
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Old 08-04-2013, 05:20 AM   #4361
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Bosley... the engine guard is superb, why Yamaha never made it like that in the first place is beyond me
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Old 08-04-2013, 06:26 AM   #4362
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Just get the speedo-cable from ebay, cheap and works fine.
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Old 08-04-2013, 12:28 PM   #4363
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92 XT600 USA model

10 3ET-83550-01-00
SPEEDOMETER CABLE ASSEMBLY
$21.95 $16.00

No '93 model or above listed.
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Old 08-04-2013, 02:12 PM   #4364
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They should be the same from at least 1990 and up, so no worries.
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Old 08-05-2013, 11:38 AM   #4365
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Bosley... the engine guard is superb, why Yamaha never made it like that in the first place is beyond me
I don't know.
This week I tried it works well
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