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Old 06-29-2011, 09:28 AM   #3556
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Okay, so I've got it narrowed down here.

I'm debating between an Invicta Pro Diver (9937OB)




or a Hamilton Kkaki Navy GMT (H77615333).



Both have auto Swiss movements. The Invicta has 26 jewels and the Hamilton has 21. Not sure if that is comparing apples to apples, but more jewels is better, right?

Both are water resistant to 200 meters.

We have two different styles, though. The Invicta is trying to mimic a Rolex, it seems to me. The Hamilton stands on it's own, and has the GMT function.

I am leaning toward the Hamilton because the company has a better name, the watch just seems like it will fit better (have read nothing but rave reviews), and because it isn't trying to be a Rolex without actually being one. The only thing that holds me back is the notion that the movement in the Invicta may be better than the one in the Hamilton.

Price-wise I can get the Hamilton for around $500. The Invicta goes for between $250 and $300. Is the Invicta really comparable quality at half the price?


Hands down Hamilton, for all the reasons you and others stated.
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:58 AM   #3557
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My guess is that the movement in the Hamilton is an ETA one - while the Invicta is likely an ETA clone. Each will likely provide good service though but that's likely the reason for the cost difference.

Correct.

Okay. It's the Hamilton. It is really the one I wanted, just needed to get talked out of the Invicta.

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Old 06-29-2011, 10:06 AM   #3558
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Hands down Hamilton, for all the reasons you and others stated.
That Invicta Pro Diver is $99 all day long at your local Sam's Club......
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Old 06-29-2011, 10:18 AM   #3559
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That Invicta Pro Diver is $99 all day long at your local Sam's Club......
Not the one he mentioned, that is the Swiss Diver, it is more expensive, but about twice or three times.
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Old 06-29-2011, 10:59 AM   #3560
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for $500, you've just opened up a few other options...

considerably, the Boschett CaveDweller at about $440 with the cheaper movement... and a bunch of others...

soon enough you'll talk yourself up $100 at a time and be in the $1600 range. oops.


also look at the Bernhardt Sea Shark
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:12 AM   #3561
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for $500, you've just opened up a few other options...

considerably, the Boschett CaveDweller at about $440 with the cheaper movement... and a bunch of others...

soon enough you'll talk yourself up $100 at a time and be in the $1600 range. oops.


also look at the Bernhardt Sea Shark
Meh.

I'm not into the dive watches right now. The price creep is a reality. I started out planning to spend no more than $200. Look at me now.
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:26 AM   #3562
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Meh.

I'm not into the dive watches right now. The price creep is a reality. I started out planning to spend no more than $200. Look at me now.

I see one on the WUS private sale boards.
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:33 AM   #3563
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lol I think a few of us sent him that link :)

Not sure how i got the impression you were looking for a dive watch... It must have carried over from my own search for a nice dive watch... oops.
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:56 AM   #3564
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My father received a Hamilton (back when they were still made in the US) for a HS Graduation Gift. I haven't been able to find an example of his online anywhere.

Simple, gold plate, small diameter, leather band.

I really dig that watch, and I know it isn't a rolex or breitling, but it is a classy watch.

One day......

I like the looks of that Hamilton a lot.
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Old 06-29-2011, 12:24 PM   #3565
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I see one on the WUS private sale boards.

The GMT in that ad looks like a nice watch and $400 is a good price too. The one in the ad looks like the three zone version, thus the yellow lettering. I like the austerity of the simple black and white on the two zone watch.

Keep 'em coming. With you guys looking too we just might find one!
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Old 06-29-2011, 12:26 PM   #3566
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lol I think a few of us sent him that link :)

Not sure how i got the impression you were looking for a dive watch... It must have carried over from my own search for a nice dive watch... oops.
I guess I did sort of start out in a dive watch frame of mind. Then I found the Hamilton (thanks DriveShaft!) and now my heart is set.
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Old 06-30-2011, 09:14 PM   #3567
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so i need some help...

i jump from hobby to hobby, get a little crazy, and then loose some interest and thin down what i've acquired during the crazy phase and keep the leftovers...

example: i got into guns a few years ago... bought and sold quite a few, kept the ones i liked... had 3+ AR15's at one point during the Obama scare... after some time, although i still love guns, i moved on to the next hobby, sold off duplicates, and kept the core collection that i really like...

Apparently i'm about to do this with watches. problem is though, all the ones i like are relatively expensive... more-so than the guns I liked...


So, here is my delima. I want a good dive watch. I was smitten with the Boschett Cave Dweller (previous page or two) and at $440 for the cheaper movement version, its a definite "could get" watch... Its seemingly limited edition, but still available new from Boschett.

Today I happened upon the Zixen DSR500 GMT... and OMG i fell in love all over again!... problem is this on is up for private sale (these were only designed/produced exactly one year ago) and won't be around long... and its twice the money.

And, i just spend twice that on my Omega (first watch).

See how this is adding up fast?

The two watches are very much not alike, but have a lot of similar features.

Both strong divers (Cavedweller is 1000m, Zixen is 500m)
both very stunning
love the bracelets on both for various reasons
I love the bold look of the CD, but i love the retro look of the Zixen.

I'm torn. I can't have them both. Each is very interesting to look at for completely opposite reasons....

HELP!!!!!!

Image stolen shamelessly from DEMO (WUS poster) because its his watch i'm interested in buying...






also solen shamelessly - from a post two pages previous (thanks xzOzx!)
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Old 07-01-2011, 05:29 AM   #3568
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so i need some help...

i jump from hobby to hobby, get a little crazy, and then loose some interest and thin down what i've acquired during the crazy phase and keep the leftovers...

example: i got into guns a few years ago... bought and sold quite a few, kept the ones i liked... had 3+ AR15's at one point during the Obama scare... after some time, although i still love guns, i moved on to the next hobby, sold off duplicates, and kept the core collection that i really like...

Apparently i'm about to do this with watches. problem is though, all the ones i like are relatively expensive... more-so than the guns I liked...


So, here is my delima. I want a good dive watch. I was smitten with the Boschett Cave Dweller (previous page or two) and at $440 for the cheaper movement version, its a definite "could get" watch... Its seemingly limited edition, but still available new from Boschett.

Today I happened upon the Zixen DSR500 GMT... and OMG i fell in love all over again!... problem is this on is up for private sale (these were only designed/produced exactly one year ago) and won't be around long... and its twice the money.

And, i just spend twice that on my Omega (first watch).

See how this is adding up fast?

The two watches are very much not alike, but have a lot of similar features.

Both strong divers (Cavedweller is 1000m, Zixen is 500m)
both very stunning
love the bracelets on both for various reasons
I love the bold look of the CD, but i love the retro look of the Zixen.

I'm torn. I can't have them both. Each is very interesting to look at for completely opposite reasons....

HELP!!!!!!

Image stolen shamelessly from DEMO (WUS poster) because its his watch i'm interested in buying...






also solen shamelessly - from a post two pages previous (thanks xzOzx!)

I would get the Cave Dweller out of those two choices. If you think you would like them the same and one is half the price of the other your decision should be made. Plus the Zixen kinda looks like a Roullette wheel to me.
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Old 07-01-2011, 06:24 AM   #3569
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so i need some help...

i jump from hobby to hobby, get a little crazy, and then loose some interest and thin down what i've acquired during the crazy phase and keep the leftovers...

example: i got into guns a few years ago... bought and sold quite a few, kept the ones i liked... had 3+ AR15's at one point during the Obama scare... after some time, although i still love guns, i moved on to the next hobby, sold off duplicates, and kept the core collection that i really like...

Apparently i'm about to do this with watches. problem is though, all the ones i like are relatively expensive... more-so than the guns I liked...


So, here is my delima. I want a good dive watch. I was smitten with the Boschett Cave Dweller (previous page or two) and at $440 for the cheaper movement version, its a definite "could get" watch... Its seemingly limited edition, but still available new from Boschett.

Today I happened upon the Zixen DSR500 GMT... and OMG i fell in love all over again!... problem is this on is up for private sale (these were only designed/produced exactly one year ago) and won't be around long... and its twice the money.

And, i just spend twice that on my Omega (first watch).

See how this is adding up fast?

The two watches are very much not alike, but have a lot of similar features.

Both strong divers (Cavedweller is 1000m, Zixen is 500m)
both very stunning
love the bracelets on both for various reasons
I love the bold look of the CD, but i love the retro look of the Zixen.

I'm torn. I can't have them both. Each is very interesting to look at for completely opposite reasons....

HELP!!!!!!

Image stolen shamelessly from DEMO (WUS poster) because its his watch i'm interested in buying...

I think this is how the term WIS came about.

Arm candy is the same as any other expensive item. You can get carried away. It's just easier with watches, bcs...you can keep a two dozen of them in a shoe box.

Eventually, for me, the cosmetics becomes less and less relevant to the buying decision than the other aspects. So, between these two, the ultimate question has less to do with the CD's chiseled looks vs. Zinix's 60's mod appeal, & more about whether GMT is really what I want on my wrist vs. a timing bezel. Do I want *both*? If so, neither is actually ideal. If it were solely about looks...well..there'd be about 300 in my collection. There are alot of nice lookin' watches. I'd go broke getting them all. Finally instead of turning into a watch whore, I just stopped buying based on looks. Features & quality first. Looks third.

The nice thing about watches is that there are so many friggin brands out there, you can actually be fairly picky, & still probably find something that fits the bill pretty perfectly.

Yeah...it's kinda like picking a wife. 'cept you can't sell a wife. Or shouldn't...
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Old 07-01-2011, 06:59 AM   #3570
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I get what you're saying... and thats probably my only hang-up with the GMT watch... i can't think of a single reason i would ever use the GMT function.... and while bezel is still useable as a dive marker, its not as useable as the bezel on the CD....

Then again i don't dive. but i feel like its something i may do in the future, and at the very least it can be used as a 60min timer.

I think the quality on both is reported to be excellent, especially for the money. The movement on the Zixen is probably better (modified ETA w/ hacking and manual wind) and I think it could be worn under a dress shirt more easily than the CD (not that i wear dress shirts very often, and i suppose the Omega i have fits that role very well already)

Truth is i don't care tooo much about how super accurate the watches are (my iphone4 is probably 100% accurate and continually updating itself and yet i'm usually late to everything anyway). I'm more into the shape, finish, etc. I love making / machining / forming things with my hands, plus I do graphics work for a living, so the look and feel is very important to me.... for now at least.

maybe if i wait around long enough the decision will be made for me... the zixen will most likely sell and i'll put it on my "grail" list along with a dozen others, and probably end up with the CD.
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