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Old 03-27-2009, 08:32 AM   #1366
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In an effort to find a mechanical watch I could work on that was cheap enough for me to destroy without feeling too bad, I've been looking around for decent movements on the cheap. ETA 2824, mostly. But long term I'm a chrono guy, so I've also had my eye out for decent valjoux 7750 movements too.

So now the promaster gets a mechanical stablemate...also in the sporty theme. Compared to other mechanical chronos with the 7750 movement, this one is dirt cheap on the secondary markets.



It's got a solid pedigree too...twist-down crown & caseback...sapphire x-tal. It almost looks too nice to bugger up. I'm going to have to give it a good beating before I crack the case on it. :)
Izzat a wetsuit you are wearing? Nice watch. Is P Zero the manufacturer?
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Old 03-27-2009, 08:50 AM   #1367
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Izzat a wetsuit you are wearing? Nice watch. Is P Zero the manufacturer?
That's my pimp shirt.

P Zero is a reference to Pirelli's sport tire. It happens to be the name of their industrial design house, which spins out a bunch of sport-oriented design concepts like the Ducati accessories you see everywhere nowadays. Except Ducati went the way of cross-branding, whereas Pirelli went the way of in-house design, using private label fabricators. In this case, Pirelli designed the watch concept and Sector actuallly manufactures the watch.
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Old 03-27-2009, 09:02 AM   #1368
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That's my pimp shirt.

P Zero is a reference to Pirelli's sport tire. It happens to be the name of their industrial design house, which spins out a bunch of sport-oriented design concepts like the Ducati accessories you see everywhere nowadays. Except Ducati went the way of cross-branding, whereas Pirelli went the way of in-house design, using private label fabricators. In this case, Pirelli designed the watch concept and Sector actuallly manufactures the watch.
I got the reference to the Perelli P Zeros as I had them on my 2002 and 3.0CSL. I like hearing that Sector is the manufacturer, I have a couple Sectors and they are great. Here's my neatest one.


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Old 03-27-2009, 09:04 AM   #1369
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That's my pimp shirt.

P Zero is a reference to Pirelli's sport tire. It happens to be the name of their industrial design house, which spins out a bunch of sport-oriented design concepts like the Ducati accessories you see everywhere nowadays. Except Ducati went the way of cross-branding, whereas Pirelli went the way of in-house design, using private label fabricators. In this case, Pirelli designed the watch concept and Sector actuallly manufactures the watch.
I also like the design in part where the PZero tread pattern is in the strap....
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Old 03-27-2009, 09:53 AM   #1370
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I also like the design in part where the PZero tread pattern is in the strap....
The tire detail had this kind of off-putting "peek-a-boo" hole in the strap, which showed skin between the two sides of the band. I modified it slightly, filling the gap with pieces of rubber. With the gap, it felt like the horological equivalent of hooker shoes. This way is imo, quite presentable.

You've got a nice guilloche pattern on the dial. I've found that Sector packs a great amount of quality into reasonably priced sporty watches. They've got several models I like. It's too bad I don't have enough money to be a watch whore. They're a little too fond of custom integrated bracelets for collectors though (who seem to love to swap bands). So I suspect this one, with its oddball integrated tire band was a hard sell, bcs it's got a collector's movement, but not the collector's choice of case/bracelet.
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:31 AM   #1371
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The tire detail had this kind of off-putting "peek-a-boo" hole in the strap, which showed skin between the two sides of the band. I modified it slightly, filling the gap with pieces of rubber. With the gap, it felt like the horological equivalent of hooker shoes. This way is imo, quite presentable.

You've got a nice guilloche pattern on the dial. I've found that Sector packs a great amount of quality into reasonably priced sporty watches. They've got several models I like. It's too bad I don't have enough money to be a watch whore. They're a little too fond of custom integrated bracelets for collectors though (who seem to love to swap bands). So I suspect this one, with its oddball integrated tire band was a hard sell, bcs it's got a collector's movement, but not the collector's choice of case/bracelet.
I have allways hated integrated straps on what would be an otherwise fine watch. I don't mind them on plastic watches, but don't really have any plastic watches but one. I love the Valjoux 7750 and varients. What is a good price for that Pzero? Sector has a few watches that look like you have a 7K watch on your wrist when you paid under $500.00.
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Old 03-27-2009, 11:12 AM   #1372
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I have allways hated integrated straps on what would be an otherwise fine watch. I don't mind them on plastic watches, but don't really have any plastic watches but one. I love the Valjoux 7750 and varients. What is a good price for that Pzero? Sector has a few watches that look like you have a 7K watch on your wrist when you paid under $500.00.
Yes...sooner or later your strap's going to crap out; then you're kind of limited as to what options are available. Of course, when the strap on this bad boy craps out, I think I'll be casing it in an aftermarket diver...like this...




Speaking of watch parts: From what I can find, the retail price for a plain jane Valjoux 7750 seems to be around $560+, unless you have an "in" with a watchmaker that can snag one wholesale. That's for the movement by itself. I've seen decorated versions with gorgeous blued screws for somewhere around $700. I figure any watch with a real 7750 movement in it (and not some cheap knock off) for less than the cost of the movement itself is a bargain and a half. Not all P Zeros are the same though. They offer a bunch of quartz models with $27 movements too. The 7750 movement and the 2836-2 day date movement are the only automatics they offer. And the gunmetal-finished Corsa that you see here was apparently limited to a production run of 1872 watches (apparently the founding year for Pirelli). Most of what you find out there is a shiny version with a lighter brushed and polished steel color...more blingy.

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Old 03-27-2009, 01:50 PM   #1373
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Yes...sooner or later your strap's going to crap out; then you're kind of limited as to what options are available. Of course, when the strap on this bad boy craps out, I think I'll be casing it in an aftermarket diver...like this...




Speaking of watch parts: From what I can find, the retail price for a plain jane Valjoux 7750 seems to be around $560+, unless you have an "in" with a watchmaker that can snag one wholesale. That's for the movement by itself. I've seen decorated versions with gorgeous blued screws for somewhere around $700. I figure any watch with a real 7750 movement in it (and not some cheap knock off) for less than the cost of the movement itself is a bargain and a half. Not all P Zeros are the same though. They offer a bunch of quartz models with $27 movements too. The 7750 movement and the 2836-2 day date movement are the only automatics they offer. And the gunmetal-finished Corsa that you see here was apparently limited to a production run of 1872 watches (apparently the founding year for Pirelli). Most of what you find out there is a shiny version with a lighter brushed and polished steel color...more blingy.
That SM Diver case design is one of my favorites. Is it avaoilable with a exhibition case back? That would be sweet to have a exhibition back ona VJ7750.
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Old 03-28-2009, 07:21 PM   #1374
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My grandfather's Rolex Turn-o-graph (first Rolex with a rotating bezel) from around 1954. It was originally marketed as an "Adventure watch" and features a radium dial. This watch was the predecessor to the Submariner line of Rolex watches.

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Old 03-28-2009, 07:35 PM   #1375
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My grandfather's Rolex Turn-o-graph (first Rolex with a rotating bezel) from around 1954. It was originally marketed as an "Adventure watch" and features a radium dial. This watch was the predecessor to the Submariner line of Rolex watches.

Wow! If that is all original, it's worth a chunk of money.
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Old 03-28-2009, 07:41 PM   #1376
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I've seen them sell for between $9K and $13K - irrelevant to me since its a family heirloom. Three generations of my family have worn this watch - I'll pass it down to my nephew eventually.
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Old 03-29-2009, 08:45 AM   #1377
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My grandfather's Rolex Turn-o-graph (first Rolex with a rotating bezel) from around 1954. It was originally marketed as an "Adventure watch" and features a radium dial. This watch was the predecessor to the Submariner line of Rolex watches.


jeeeze, that's sweet.

I'd be torn on whether to get it overhauled, it's got great character/ well worn, but it's also on the cusp of looking beat up. Have you considered getting it cleaned up, new crystal (but definitely keep the old one for collection putposes), have you had the mech serviced?


I had my Dad's 1960's Zodiac redone (it looked like yours) and I'm glad I did.

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Old 03-29-2009, 11:16 AM   #1378
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I've seen them sell for between $9K and $13K - irrelevant to me since its a family heirloom. Three generations of my family have worn this watch - I'll pass it down to my nephew eventually.
There is some guy on the Rolex forums who is highly recommended for restoring old Rolexes. I've forgotten his name. He'll work worth you on putting the watch into whatever state of restoration you want, whether you want it to look like brand new or just service the movement and leave the dial alone.
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Old 04-02-2009, 09:34 PM   #1379
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I have seen quite a bit in this thread and I am a watch geek as much as the next guy but schit, this thing does it all: time, temp, altitude, 5 alarms, countdown, atomic time, backlight, etc, etc, etc,.

And because of the world we live it, you can have this computer on your wrist in three days for


























































$159 American




that schit ought to blow your mind.
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I have seen quite a bit in this thread and I am a watch geek as much as the next guy but schit, this thing does it all: time, temp, altitude, 5 alarms, countdown, atomic time, backlight, etc, etc, etc,.

And because of the world we live it, you can have this computer on your wrist in three days for
$159 American

that schit ought to blow your mind.
Nope . . .
Nada . . .
Zilch . . .

ain't feelin' it . . .

That frikken thing is hideous!
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