|01-27-2007, 06:56 PM||#1|
Joined: Jan 2002
Location: Portland, Oregon US
Whelen Super LED module
I just installed a Whelen TIR3 Super LED Module ($50. from Vehicle Lighting Solutions) as an auxilary brake light and fired it up. I was stunned: this thing really puts out a LOT of light and flashes in a "oh god it's the cops pants wetting" pattern (actually any of a dozen patterns that you can program). Looks to be real solid, come with mounting hardware and clear instructions. My old HyperLites don't come close to comparing to this unit.
2011 Moto Guzzi Norge 8V GT
|03-23-2007, 11:01 AM||#4|
Joined: Mar 2006
Location: Detroit (Rock City!)
|03-23-2007, 09:34 PM||#5|
Joined: Dec 2006
Can it be set to not flash and only function as a standard taillight/stoplight? These things seem to be made primarily for emergency vehicle use so I wouldn't want to run into problems with a LEO 'discussing' that I just don't want a cager running over my arse and I'm not trying to impersonate an ambulance or police car.
|03-23-2007, 09:35 PM||#6|
Joined: Jun 2006
My LED tail light wiring steps is burried in in this walk-thru:
Enclosed is a step by step procedure for replacing the stock 1157 tail light with a modern, low power consumption, bright LED replacement. I will also supplement the tail light with an aftermarket LED Light Bar. The advantages of the modification are as follows:
1. Long live bulbs. The bulbs will outlast the bike. Even the KLR!
2. No more bulb replacement
3. Low power consumption system
4. Brighter system
4. Vibration/shock resistant bulbs
5. More visibility = less likelihood of rear end collision
The inspriation for this modification is based on a thread by fellow KLRworld members including kramsetac, 75,000 miles, Quarterhorse 2, and Bikerscout.
The LED’s can be found at www.customdynamics.com The reflector tape can be found at any autoparts store in the near the paint supplies. LED Items to install:
1. 1157 tail/stop light LED replacement Radiant cluster 1.85 inch red Direct base Get SKU # 5302-19 for $34.99
2. 6 inch lightbar - red/black SKU 02010 $35.95
brushup on KLR650 electrical/wire issues
Items to be installed
LED 1157 tail light, Plug in existing socket
6 inch tail/stop light supplement. Not a tail light replacement. Will need to mount and wire this item
reflector tape. Metallica...Rock on Man..."FreeBird"!!! hehehe
remove tail light plastic housing
exposed bulb and “dull” reflector
stock bulb and LED replacement
install LED in socket. Just push while turning. May need to rotate 180 degrees when installing. Will only engage correctly one way
all installed, No issues fits fine
need to remove the housing reflector to make it mirror like finish. Remove these 2x nuts 10mm wrench
unhook wires 3x total. Just pull while turning. Don’t worry it won’t brake. I added tape so I know to reconnect the correct wires together
2x nuts off, 3x wires labeled and disconnected
reflector can now be removed
now apply that mirror sticky side tape
unroll the 6 foot long tape, cut 1 foot or so.
the housing is symmetric so you can work from the paper side
trim to fit
peel back the paper exposing the adheasive
inlay on the plastic reflector....No worries about heat from LED’s. There is none!
mirror like reflection...see the camera?
now the sides
mark trim lines
inlay to check
tape opposite side
back side now. Since it is curved it will have to be installed piecemeal
cover screw studs
drape the material as best you can
check bulb does not contact material
check power consumption
Stock bulb tail light only .446 amps or 6.24 watts of power
Stock bulb Brake light only 1.903 amps or 27 watts of power
New LED tail light only .070 amps or 1.0 watts of power
New LED Brake light only .354 amps or 5 watts of power
The LED consume ~ 17% of the stock wattage. Woohoo!
light bar tail on at .020 amps or .24 watts
light bar Brake light at .25 amps or 3.0 watts
need to make 3x of these electrical splice/spliters to run power to LED light bar
will attach here
like so. Each one is color coded. Look at Stebel horn install for walk thru of making a wire bundle
reattach the tail light housing
add LED bulb
thread wires thru opening
attach color coded wire bundles
awaiting to attach to LED bar
make and attach LED bracket, use this Aluminum angle
mark cutting trim lines
after bandsaw cut
will attach bracket here, measure hole pitch
trim bracket with band saw
quick check to see if fits ok
drill mounting holes in bracket tabs
drilled and deburr holes
mount light bar here
use rubber gasket as template
attach bar to bracket with metric M4-.7 allen head bolts
check drill size
drill and deburr
ready to mount
thread wire thru center access hole
use loctite on threads
ready to mount on bike
pickup these 2x holes
drill small hole to thread wires under fender
wires threaded thru here
standoff view lights off
wires to connect to splicer
wire splice tools ready!
cut excess length
add 1x small shrink wrap (white) + 1x large shrink wrap (black) + one waterproof 20 AWG wire crimp connector
shrink wrap connectors
repeat all 3x connectors
zip tie the wires to frame...now for the results......
OEM stock tail bulb tail light only (no brake)
LED tail light (no brake)
OEM stock brake light
I think the system exceeded my expectations
1. Low power consumption LED use ~ 20% of incandescent power (6.24 watts vs. 1.24 watts LED) for tail light and (27 watts vs. 8 watts) for brake light.
2. Recommend adding the reflective material
3. Vibration resistant system.
4 Much brighter than stock. Nice safety issue! Especially if viewed from directly behind.
5. Independent Fail-safe light system.
Happy with mod
ready to ride!
|03-23-2007, 10:31 PM||#7|
Joined: Mar 2007
Location: Central NC
I have the Wheelen Talon and some TIR3's, but they're not on my bike and they face forward. Great little light blasters. Stopped at an intersection waiting for traffic to clear a few weeks ago, thinking there's no way crossing traffic can see my little blinkey light (Talon) 90 degrees off axis, and whadaya know, they pulled over and stopped for me. Amazing.
I have the Dual Star brake light on my KLR, but I have heard on other boards of people in a few states being hassled by the cops about modulating brake lights and it sounded like they were pushing an 'emergency vehicle light' angle on the flashing red light being illegal. Can't remember what state that was, but the city busses do it here so I doubt you'd be hasssled for it here.
|03-23-2007, 11:13 PM||#8|
Joined: Jan 2004
Nice job on the install. I have been mulling over an led taillight for my GS...
I am the worlds only life size house of cards....
|03-25-2007, 07:31 AM||#9|
Joined: Mar 2006
Location: Detroit (Rock City!)
|03-25-2007, 12:18 PM||#10|
Joined: Aug 2006
Location: Vantucky, WA
816.100 Brake lights. Each of the following is a requirement for brake lights as described: (1) Brake lights shall be placed on the rear of the vehicle. Where more than one brake light is required under ORS 816.320 and 816.330 at least one brake light shall be placed on each side of the rear.
(2) Brake lights shall be constructed and located on a vehicle so as to give a signal of intention to stop.
(3) Brake lights shall emit a red light. If the motor vehicle was manufactured before 1959 and the brake light is combined with the taillight in a taillight assembly, the assembly may contain an insert as described under ORS 816.080.
(4) Except as provided in subsection (11) of this section, brake lights shall emit a steady burning light.
(5) Brake lights shall emit a light that is plainly visible and capable of being seen and distinguished from a distance of 500 feet to the rear of the vehicle in normal daylight.
(6) Brake lights required under ORS 816.320 and 816.330 shall be mounted, so far as practicable, in such a manner as to reduce the hazard of being obscured by mud or dust thrown by the wheels.
(7) Brake lights shall not project a glaring or dazzling light.
(8) Brake lights may be incorporated with a taillight.
(9) Brake lights shall be activated upon application of the service brake.
(10) Brake lights required under ORS 816.320 and 816.330 or any parts for brake lights must comply with standards adopted by the Department of Transportation under ORS 816.010.
(11) Brake lights for motorcycles may flash intermittently, provided that the brake lights do not override the rear turn signal function. [1983 c.338
§458 (7); 1985 c.16 §240 (7); 1985 c.69 §1 (7); 1985 c.71 §4 (7); 1985 c.393 §13 (7); 1985 c.420 §6 (7); 1997 c.492 §2; 2003 c.158 §24]
|03-25-2007, 02:07 PM||#11|
love what you do
Joined: Aug 2005
Location: New Hampshah
Wow. That was quite a writeup. Thanks!
Nate in N.E.
Yes, I have a Dakar problem -- that there are 50 weeks of the year without Dakar!
They don't expect you to finish. That's why it's the Dakar. -- PPiA
|03-26-2007, 11:22 PM||#12|
Joined: Sep 2005
Location: Eastern Washington, USA
|03-27-2007, 12:03 AM||#13|
Joined: Mar 2003
Location: Hood River, OR
'01 LC4 640E 18L
|03-27-2007, 12:09 AM||#14|
Joined: Feb 2007
Location: Deep Mud
Good effort... learn new things everyday. Thank you!
I am currently trying out the 3W LEDs brake light introduced by a friend...
suspose to be much brighter, uses lesser electrical power.. blah blah blah...
|03-27-2007, 01:25 AM||#15|
Joined: Aug 2006
Location: Vantucky, WA
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