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Old 01-27-2007, 06:56 PM   #1
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Thumb Whelen Super LED module

I just installed a Whelen TIR3 Super LED Module ($50. from Vehicle Lighting Solutions) as an auxilary brake light and fired it up. I was stunned: this thing really puts out a LOT of light and flashes in a "oh god it's the cops pants wetting" pattern (actually any of a dozen patterns that you can program). Looks to be real solid, come with mounting hardware and clear instructions. My old HyperLites don't come close to comparing to this unit.

http://www.vlsusa.com/cgi-bin/vlsusa/TIR3.html
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Old 03-21-2007, 12:35 PM   #2
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Old 03-21-2007, 01:19 PM   #3
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any info on how you wired it?
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Old 03-23-2007, 11:01 AM   #4
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I was stunned: this thing really puts out a LOT of light
+1; that's what I'm using as a brake/tail on my XRR and it's freaking insane how much light comes out. It hurts my eyes, when they're closed!
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Old 03-23-2007, 09:34 PM   #5
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Can it be set to not flash and only function as a standard taillight/stoplight? These things seem to be made primarily for emergency vehicle use so I wouldn't want to run into problems with a LEO 'discussing' that I just don't want a cager running over my arse and I'm not trying to impersonate an ambulance or police car.

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Old 03-23-2007, 09:35 PM   #6
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My LED tail light wiring steps is burried in in this walk-thru:

Enclosed is a step by step procedure for replacing the stock 1157 tail light with a modern, low power consumption, bright LED replacement. I will also supplement the tail light with an aftermarket LED Light Bar. The advantages of the modification are as follows:
1. Long live bulbs. The bulbs will outlast the bike. Even the KLR!
2. No more bulb replacement
3. Low power consumption system
4. Brighter system
4. Vibration/shock resistant bulbs
5. More visibility = less likelihood of rear end collision
The inspriation for this modification is based on a thread by fellow KLRworld members including kramsetac, 75,000 miles, Quarterhorse 2, and Bikerscout.
The LED’s can be found at www.customdynamics.com The reflector tape can be found at any autoparts store in the near the paint supplies. LED Items to install:
1. 1157 tail/stop light LED replacement Radiant cluster 1.85 inch red Direct base Get SKU # 5302-19 for $34.99
2. 6 inch lightbar - red/black SKU 02010 $35.95

brushup on KLR650 electrical/wire issues

Items to be installed

LED 1157 tail light, Plug in existing socket

6 inch tail/stop light supplement. Not a tail light replacement. Will need to mount and wire this item

install instructions

reflector tape. Metallica...Rock on Man..."FreeBird"!!! hehehe

remove tail light plastic housing

exposed bulb and “dull” reflector

stock bulb and LED replacement

backside view

install LED in socket. Just push while turning. May need to rotate 180 degrees when installing. Will only engage correctly one way

all installed, No issues fits fine

need to remove the housing reflector to make it mirror like finish. Remove these 2x nuts 10mm wrench

unhook wires 3x total. Just pull while turning. Don’t worry it won’t brake. I added tape so I know to reconnect the correct wires together

2x nuts off, 3x wires labeled and disconnected

reflector can now be removed

now apply that mirror sticky side tape

unroll the 6 foot long tape, cut 1 foot or so.

the housing is symmetric so you can work from the paper side

trim to fit

peel back the paper exposing the adheasive

inlay on the plastic reflector....No worries about heat from LED’s. There is none!

mirror like reflection...see the camera?

now the sides

mark trim lines

inlay to check

tape opposite side

like so!

back side now. Since it is curved it will have to be installed piecemeal

cover screw studs

drape the material as best you can

almost done

check bulb does not contact material

check power consumption

Stock bulb tail light only .446 amps or 6.24 watts of power

Stock bulb Brake light only 1.903 amps or 27 watts of power

New LED tail light only .070 amps or 1.0 watts of power

New LED Brake light only .354 amps or 5 watts of power
The LED consume ~ 17% of the stock wattage. Woohoo!

light bar tail on at .020 amps or .24 watts

light bar Brake light at .25 amps or 3.0 watts

need to make 3x of these electrical splice/spliters to run power to LED light bar

will attach here

like so. Each one is color coded. Look at Stebel horn install for walk thru of making a wire bundle

reattach the tail light housing
add LED bulb

thread wires thru opening

attach color coded wire bundles

awaiting to attach to LED bar

make and attach LED bracket, use this Aluminum angle

trace outline

mark cutting trim lines

after bandsaw cut

will attach bracket here, measure hole pitch

transfer measurements

trim bracket with band saw

quick check to see if fits ok

drill mounting holes in bracket tabs

drilled and deburr holes

check fit

mount light bar here

use rubber gasket as template

mark holes

attach bar to bracket with metric M4-.7 allen head bolts

check drill size

drill and deburr

ready to mount

thread wire thru center access hole

use loctite on threads

looks good!

ready to mount on bike

pickup these 2x holes

drill small hole to thread wires under fender

mounting complete

wires threaded thru here

standoff view lights off

wires to connect to splicer

wire splice tools ready!

cut excess length

strip insulation

add 1x small shrink wrap (white) + 1x large shrink wrap (black) + one waterproof 20 AWG wire crimp connector

crimp connector

shrink wrap connectors

repeat all 3x connectors

zip tie the wires to frame...now for the results......

OEM stock tail bulb tail light only (no brake)

LED tail light (no brake)

OEM stock brake light

LED brake

LED tail

LED brake
Review:
I think the system exceeded my expectations
1. Low power consumption LED use ~ 20% of incandescent power (6.24 watts vs. 1.24 watts LED) for tail light and (27 watts vs. 8 watts) for brake light.
2. Recommend adding the reflective material
3. Vibration resistant system.
4 Much brighter than stock. Nice safety issue! Especially if viewed from directly behind.
5. Independent Fail-safe light system.
Happy with mod

ready to ride!
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Old 03-23-2007, 10:31 PM   #7
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I have the Wheelen Talon and some TIR3's, but they're not on my bike and they face forward. Great little light blasters. Stopped at an intersection waiting for traffic to clear a few weeks ago, thinking there's no way crossing traffic can see my little blinkey light (Talon) 90 degrees off axis, and whadaya know, they pulled over and stopped for me. Amazing.

I have the Dual Star brake light on my KLR, but I have heard on other boards of people in a few states being hassled by the cops about modulating brake lights and it sounded like they were pushing an 'emergency vehicle light' angle on the flashing red light being illegal. Can't remember what state that was, but the city busses do it here so I doubt you'd be hasssled for it here.
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Old 03-23-2007, 11:13 PM   #8
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My LED tail light wiring steps is burried in in this walk-thru:

Enclosed is a step by step procedure for replacing the stock 1157 tail light with a modern, low power consumption, bright LED replacement. I will also supplement the tail light with an aftermarket LED Light Bar. The advantages of the modification are as follows:
1. Long live bulbs. The bulbs will outlast the bike. Even the KLR!
2. No more bulb replacement
3. Low power consumption system
4. Brighter system
4. Vibration/shock resistant bulbs
5. More visibility = less likelihood of rear end collision
The inspriation for this modification is based on a thread by fellow KLRworld members including kramsetac, 75,000 miles, Quarterhorse 2, and Bikerscout.
The LED’s can be found at www.customdynamics.com The reflector tape can be found at any autoparts store in the near the paint supplies. LED Items to install:
1. 1157 tail/stop light LED replacement Radiant cluster 1.85 inch red Direct base Get SKU # 5302-19 for $34.99
2. 6 inch lightbar - red/black SKU 02010 $35.95
The most impressive picture of the bunch! I don't think Kawasaki has that many binders on the KLR!


Nice job on the install. I have been mulling over an led taillight for my GS...
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Old 03-25-2007, 07:31 AM   #9
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Can it be set to not flash and only function as a standard taillight/stoplight?
Yes. One of the flasher modes is 'steady burn'.
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Old 03-25-2007, 12:18 PM   #10
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I have the Wheelen Talon and some TIR3's, but they're not on my bike and they face forward. Great little light blasters. Stopped at an intersection waiting for traffic to clear a few weeks ago, thinking there's no way crossing traffic can see my little blinkey light (Talon) 90 degrees off axis, and whadaya know, they pulled over and stopped for me. Amazing.

I have the Dual Star brake light on my KLR, but I have heard on other boards of people in a few states being hassled by the cops about modulating brake lights and it sounded like they were pushing an 'emergency vehicle light' angle on the flashing red light being illegal. Can't remember what state that was, but the city busses do it here so I doubt you'd be hasssled for it here.
In Oregon it is legal for motorcycles to have Flashing brake lights under ORS 816.100(11).

816.100 Brake lights. Each of the following is a requirement for brake lights as described: (1) Brake lights shall be placed on the rear of the vehicle. Where more than one brake light is required under ORS 816.320 and 816.330 at least one brake light shall be placed on each side of the rear.
(2) Brake lights shall be constructed and located on a vehicle so as to give a signal of intention to stop.
(3) Brake lights shall emit a red light. If the motor vehicle was manufactured before 1959 and the brake light is combined with the taillight in a taillight assembly, the assembly may contain an insert as described under ORS 816.080.
(4) Except as provided in subsection (11) of this section, brake lights shall emit a steady burning light.
(5) Brake lights shall emit a light that is plainly visible and capable of being seen and distinguished from a distance of 500 feet to the rear of the vehicle in normal daylight.
(6) Brake lights required under ORS 816.320 and 816.330 shall be mounted, so far as practicable, in such a manner as to reduce the hazard of being obscured by mud or dust thrown by the wheels.
(7) Brake lights shall not project a glaring or dazzling light.
(8) Brake lights may be incorporated with a taillight.
(9) Brake lights shall be activated upon application of the service brake.
(10) Brake lights required under ORS 816.320 and 816.330 or any parts for brake lights must comply with standards adopted by the Department of Transportation under ORS 816.010.
(11) Brake lights for motorcycles may flash intermittently, provided that the brake lights do not override the rear turn signal function. [1983 c.338



§458 (7); 1985 c.16 §240 (7); 1985 c.69 §1 (7); 1985 c.71 §4 (7); 1985 c.393 §13 (7); 1985 c.420 §6 (7); 1997 c.492 §2; 2003 c.158 §24]
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Old 03-25-2007, 02:07 PM   #11
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Wow. That was quite a writeup. Thanks!

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Old 03-26-2007, 11:22 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by markgsnw
I just installed a Whelen TIR3 Super LED Module ($50. from Vehicle Lighting Solutions) as an auxilary brake light and fired it up. I was stunned: this thing really puts out a LOT of light and flashes in a "oh god it's the cops pants wetting" pattern (actually any of a dozen patterns that you can program). Looks to be real solid, come with mounting hardware and clear instructions. My old HyperLites don't come close to comparing to this unit.

http://www.vlsusa.com/cgi-bin/vlsusa/TIR3.html
I assume you are using the LED in addition to the stock tail/stop light. I am also looking at something like this to enhance my stop light. What bike is it mounted on and how does the brighness of the LED module compare to the stock stop light?
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Old 03-27-2007, 12:03 AM   #13
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I just installed a Whelen TIR3 Super LED Module ($50. from Vehicle Lighting Solutions) as an auxilary brake light and fired it up. I was stunned: this thing really puts out a LOT of light and flashes in a "oh god it's the cops pants wetting" pattern (actually any of a dozen patterns that you can program). Looks to be real solid, come with mounting hardware and clear instructions. My old HyperLites don't come close to comparing to this unit.

http://www.vlsusa.com/cgi-bin/vlsusa/TIR3.html
I have the same light as a brake light on my Vstrom. It's actually a grill light for unmarked police cars. Stupidly bright.
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Old 03-27-2007, 12:09 AM   #14
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Good effort... learn new things everyday. Thank you!

I am currently trying out the 3W LEDs brake light introduced by a friend...



suspose to be much brighter, uses lesser electrical power.. blah blah blah...

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Old 03-27-2007, 01:25 AM   #15
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Good effort... learn new things everyday. Thank you!

I am currently trying out the 3W LEDs brake light introduced by a friend...



suspose to be much brighter, uses lesser electrical power.. blah blah blah...

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Nice design. Looks like it has 8 high flux LEDs on the sides? Any issues with heat dissipation?
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