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Old 06-29-2007, 04:48 AM   #196
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Fitting Rubber Dampers

The dampers open end goes down into the hub with the little ridge connecting them facing the sprocket carrier and bridging the hub's castings. I assembled my wheel with everything on it (sprocket, rotor) and then put the new cush hub / spoked rim on a couple of wood 4x4s with the rotor facing down but away from the floor to protect it (only the rim was on the wood.) I lubed up the dampers with rubber lube. (You probably could use dish detergent.) I put the sprocket carrier in the wheel fitting the cast lugs between the dampers. I then got my "special tool", my feet, and gently rocking and bouncing up and down on the sprocket I squished the carrier into the hub. When it goes "Splork" you are home free. Then just slide it into the swing arm.

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Old 06-29-2007, 06:07 AM   #197
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Dirt Bagz Brackets

The sub frame on my '07 525 EXC is not T6 alloy, was heat treated after KTM welded on their brackets and then chromed. If I welded on a new bracket it would not be heat treated and would disintegrate. The chrome would make for a very sloppy weld unless it was removed. I decided to bolt on a new bracket opposite the muffler and use the existing muffler bracket for the other attachment.

Nuts, bolts, paint and metal were from the hardware store. Inexpensive.

I drilled thru the sub frame on the left side to mount the new bracket. I bent the attaching straps to fit the Dirt Bagz brackets (which are for the '03 KTM sub frame, not the later ones.)

The Dirt Bagz tabs had to be cut off and re-welded to clear my Akrapovic and the plastic. I turned the tabs 180 degrees being CAREFUL to index them since they were attached on an angle to line up with the '03 KTM sub frame. (I didn't get them exactly lined up but they were close.) This was the only welding required.

Now I get to try them out and see if they survive or whether the stock sub frame will crack and fail. If it fails I will let you know.

Now you can install Dirt Bagz on your late model KTM! CAUTION!! Do NOT carry more than 10 to 15 pounds in these bags!! (No tools.) The sub frame is not strong enough for this. However, it is a great way to carry jackets, sleeping bags, etc., and that is just what I needed.

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Old 06-29-2007, 10:01 AM   #198
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The dampers open end goes down into the hub with the little ridge connecting them facing the sprocket carrier and bridging the hub's castings. I assembled my wheel with everything on it (sprocket, rotor) and then put the new cush hub / spoked rim on a couple of wood 4x4s with the rotor facing down but away from the floor to protect it (only the rim was on the wood.) I lubed up the dampers with rubber lube. (You probably could use dish detergent.) I put the sprocket carrier in the wheel fitting the cast lugs between the dampers. I then got my "special tool", my feet, and gently rocking and bouncing up and down on the sprocket I squished the carrier into the hub. When it goes "Splork" you are home free. Then just slide it into the swing arm.
Heh, good job I asked! didn't think it looked right with those dampers the way I had it!

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Old 06-29-2007, 10:13 AM   #199
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I noticed that the rear rim doesn't have a rimlock bolt like the stock 525 one does... hopefully, that won't make much difference.
Just drill the rim. You're definitely going to want a rimlock on that monster unless you're going to keep the tire aired up to 30PSI+ all the time...
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Old 07-01-2007, 09:49 AM   #200
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... you can install Dirt Bagz on your late model KTM! CAUTION!! Do NOT carry more than 10 to 15 pounds in these bags!! (No tools.) The sub frame is not strong enough for this. However, it is a great way to carry jackets, sleeping bags, etc., and that is just what I needed.

Stu
Hi Stu,

Looks good. I'd say you're ready for your next big adventure on the 525. I was concerned about the sub-frame, too. During my most recent trip, I carrried about 25 lbs (including heavy items such as tools, nuts & bolts, spare parts) right behind me on the seat using a Wolfman bag. By keeping the weight as far forward as possible, I experienced no problems with the subframe.
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Old 07-01-2007, 12:57 PM   #201
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Wolfman Bag

The Wolfman bag spreads the weight along the subframe in front of the junction with the two struts that head out to the rear. My bracket localizes the force past this joint so only this relatively unsupported part of the subframe carries the weight of the Dirt Bagz. That is my concern. I do not anticipate any problems as long as I keep the weight within limits. I intend to get the Wolfman Beta bag with the 8" channel as well and am not worried about that weight. I've seen some pretty hefty guys slamming around on RFSs without trashing the subframe but then they are not literally sitting out on the fender where the weakest part happens to be. I've also been in some pretty spectacular crashes as well without damage to the subframe. I'm just cautious.

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Old 07-01-2007, 01:09 PM   #202
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For all of you that may still be wondering about the RFS as a dual sport bike the indecisiveness is over. The latest issue of Cycle World (August) picked the '07 525 EXC as one of the 10 best bikes winning the dual sport category. They had high praise for the bike. They have a 450 EXC in their long term testing as well. Zero problems with it to date.

The latest issue of Dirt Rider (August issue) also singled out the '07 450 EXC as the best enduro bike for the year. They also noted on page 77 that, "We've put more than 30,000 miles on an RFS motor, and this isn't bad for a bike that was introduced in 2000 as high-performance and possibly short-fused."

End of discussion about reliability and the RFS! Go Ride it, guys!

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Old 07-01-2007, 03:29 PM   #203
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+1 ride on!!

Mine's strictly off road duty-but sometimes I think a little asphalt would be just fine on the 525.

Anybody ridden a cush hub off road for any significant time?"
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Old 07-01-2007, 08:23 PM   #204
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The dampers open end goes down into the hub with the little ridge connecting them facing the sprocket carrier and bridging the hub's castings. I assembled my wheel with everything on it (sprocket, rotor) and then put the new cush hub / spoked rim on a couple of wood 4x4s with the rotor facing down but away from the floor to protect it (only the rim was on the wood.) I lubed up the dampers with rubber lube. (You probably could use dish detergent.) I put the sprocket carrier in the wheel fitting the cast lugs between the dampers. I then got my "special tool", my feet, and gently rocking and bouncing up and down on the sprocket I squished the carrier into the hub. When it goes "Splork" you are home free. Then just slide it into the swing arm.

Hope this helps!

Stu
Ha ha, my balance isn't as good as yours so I just squeezed mine together with a clamp. It went into the swingarm easy. I love my Woody's Wheel, that is!







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Old 07-01-2007, 08:31 PM   #205
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Well, Brian, I see that you believe that anything worth doing is worth doing to wretched excess.

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Old 07-01-2007, 09:09 PM   #206
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Hey, that's a good motto for me
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:25 AM   #207
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04 450 MXC just crossed into 17,000 all street miles after 18 months of original owner riding. Valves adjusted once, still in spec but put to loose side. No mech problems at all.
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Old 07-08-2007, 03:24 PM   #208
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04 450 MXC just crossed into 17,000 all street miles after 18 months of original owner riding. Valves adjusted once, still in spec but put to loose side. No mech problems at all.
I'm impressed. I hope to get as many miles out of my 525.

I have had PMs about the Dirt Bagz and what they look like. First, I've had several sets of these bags. They are very durable, flexible, out of the way for tight trails (unlike hard bags) and classy looking. I've had nasty crashes on them. They seem to survive my worst. Highly recommended, guys.

I also mounted Sicass Racing LEDs for rear turnsignals, keeping them close and drilling new mounts toward the front and up. This keeps them from frying with the Akrapovic exhaust and makes them fairly crash proof. (More on that as I crash more.) You can see how they are up and forward.

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Old 07-08-2007, 04:37 PM   #209
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Nice job, Stu.

Yeah, my right indicator is getting a little sooty in its stock location, even after going to the Sicass. I may remount mine like you did yours so it doesn't get any worse.
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Old 07-08-2007, 06:09 PM   #210
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Tank Panniers

Greetings. I've been lurking on this thread for a while. I have a KLR650 which I use for long distance on/off road trips, but the KLR is a big fat pig for anything except fire roads.

The 525 looks like a good solution to my desire of a 90/10% adventure bike. Regarding luggage, though, I havent seen anyone on this thread talk about using Tank Panniers.

On my KLR, I use the Wolfman Beta, Explorer tank bag, front fender bag, and...tank panniers. Would they be too much in the way on an EXC? They are an excellent way of unloading the rear subframe a bit.



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