R100GS missing on start - Page 3

Rapid Dog · 02-13-2007, 08:05 AM

I'm not so sure these float levels are correct...input here...

Rapid Dog · 02-13-2007, 08:14 AM

....there is alot of residue both black-ish and some corrosive white stuff...I''m wondering if the bike had saltwater in the carbs, the bottom area of the choke valve has some pitting at the bottom of the chamber...

Rapid Dog · 02-13-2007, 08:15 AM

the needles are set at the second notch from the bottom...
The main jet is a #45.

wintonio · 02-13-2007, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapid Dog

....there is alot of residue both black-ish and some corrosive white stuff...I''m wondering if the bike had saltwater in the carbs, the bottom area of the choke valve has some pitting at the bottom of the chamber...

if you would do me a favor, please take a pic of this same left side choke body housing, but with the choke body properly oriented in it. I am not sure if I put mine in upside down or not, but I am learning, almost the hard way, that I need to start taking notes, either written or photographic, and quit relying on my faulty memory... the dumbass in me strikes again (coincidentally, I am at the part in The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance when he is discussing ways to prevent some of the "gumption" busters)

Rapid Dog · 02-13-2007, 08:33 AM

will this help, oh, incidently, I have a day job...

lkchris · 02-13-2007, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SOLO LOBO

Absoutely toss the foam filter and return to the stock paper... when running that, I think it is fair to assume that the stock jetting would not be correct, and perhaps not close.

This is "general knowledge" NOT APPLICABLE to engines with constant velocity carbs with have AUTOMATICALLY ADJUSTABLE jetting via a tapered needle.

The part about using OE filter is right on, of course.

wintonio · 02-13-2007, 09:15 AM

as usual, my requests are not as specific as they should be.

What I was really requesting was the inside view, not that you would know what question was in my head and not specifically stated.

I thought, maybe, I was the only guy here with a day job, and that the rest of you were members of the "lucky sperm club"

Rapid Dog · 02-13-2007, 09:32 AM

sir winton, ya'll need to go fishin'...

SOLO LOBO · 02-13-2007, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lkchris

This is "general knowledge" NOT APPLICABLE to engines with constant velocity carbs with have AUTOMATICALLY ADJUSTABLE jetting via a tapered needle.

Interesting point, I do know a few who would disagree and need to think about this for a bit but I do not think this is correct, anyone else?

Suppermotodd · 02-13-2007, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapid Dog

I'm not so sure these float levels are correct...input here...

The carb must be upside down to measure the float height.

Rapid Dog · 02-13-2007, 11:47 AM

and that height should be...(waiting for other shoe to drop...)

RandyB · 02-13-2007, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SOLO LOBO

Interesting point, I do know a few who would disagree and need to think about this for a bit but I do not think this is correct, anyone else?

IIRC, the needle adjusts the mixture in a ratio determined by slide height. That barely makes sense to me.

Leave the needle setting alone for now. I think new needles are about $7 each. While you're in there (TM)....

If it keeps stumbling, you're probably going to have to go to 145, 2.68 idle and I forget main jet size. Bing will happily fix it for $76. Trust me.

Rapid Dog · 02-13-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyB

If it keeps stumbling, you're probably going to have to go to 145, 2.68 idle and I forget main jet size. Bing will happily fix it for $76. Trust me.

a 145? 145 which?
2.68 idle jet?

Suppermotodd · 02-13-2007, 01:12 PM

Height is not listed in factory manual that I can find. I turned mine over and measured both carbs. If they are not the same you have a problem. The last bike I had a problem with had one side that was flooding because the floats were heavy and sinking. Weigh both of them and make sure they are the same. If you find a varience I would replace both of them. Here is the assembly pages.

Rapid Dog · 02-13-2007, 01:17 PM

heck, these are way harder to get the float pins out of than my /7...matter of fact I can't seem to get them out atall....

02-13-2007, 08:05 AM	#31
Rapid Dog ^OP bikes, booze, broads... Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Strangel Living West of Hell Oddometer: 8,327	floats I'm not so sure these float levels are correct...input here... Rapid Dog screwed with this post 12-16-2010 at 06:51 AM

02-13-2007, 08:14 AM	#32
Rapid Dog ^OP bikes, booze, broads... Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Strangel Living West of Hell Oddometer: 8,327	choke ....there is alot of residue both black-ish and some corrosive white stuff...I''m wondering if the bike had saltwater in the carbs, the bottom area of the choke valve has some pitting at the bottom of the chamber... Rapid Dog screwed with this post 12-16-2010 at 06:51 AM

02-13-2007, 08:15 AM	#33
Rapid Dog ^OP bikes, booze, broads... Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Strangel Living West of Hell Oddometer: 8,327	needles the needles are set at the second notch from the bottom... The main jet is a #45. Rapid Dog screwed with this post 12-16-2010 at 06:51 AM

02-13-2007, 08:33 AM	#35
Rapid Dog ^OP bikes, booze, broads... Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Strangel Living West of Hell Oddometer: 8,327	...i am at your service sir .... will this help, oh, incidently, I have a day job... Rapid Dog screwed with this post 12-16-2010 at 06:51 AM

02-13-2007, 09:32 AM	#38
Rapid Dog ^OP bikes, booze, broads... Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Strangel Living West of Hell Oddometer: 8,327	sir winton sir winton, ya'll need to go fishin'... Rapid Dog screwed with this post 12-16-2010 at 06:51 AM

02-13-2007, 09:15 AM	#37
wintonio last of the Dum Dum Daze Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Denver, CO Oddometer: 1,650	as usual, my requests are not as specific as they should be. What I was really requesting was the inside view, not that you would know what question was in my head and not specifically stated. I thought, maybe, I was the only guy here with a day job, and that the rest of you were members of the "lucky sperm club"

02-13-2007, 11:47 AM	#41
Rapid Dog ^OP bikes, booze, broads... Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Strangel Living West of Hell Oddometer: 8,327	mm'S and that height should be...(waiting for other shoe to drop...)

02-13-2007, 01:12 PM	#44
Suppermotodd Tag Thief Joined: Apr 2004 Location: Snobnal Mountain, TN Oddometer: 1,018	Factory Manual Height is not listed in factory manual that I can find. I turned mine over and measured both carbs. If they are not the same you have a problem. The last bike I had a problem with had one side that was flooding because the floats were heavy and sinking. Weigh both of them and make sure they are the same. If you find a varience I would replace both of them. Here is the assembly pages. __________________ Man I'm broke as a stick! NoPC-Lance http://www.motocompound.com Suppermotodd screwed with this post 02-13-2007 at 01:19 PM

02-13-2007, 01:17 PM	#45
Rapid Dog ^OP bikes, booze, broads... Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Strangel Living West of Hell Oddometer: 8,327	heck, these are way harder to get the float pins out of than my /7...matter of fact I can't seem to get them out atall....

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