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Old 02-16-2007, 06:33 AM   #16
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Did I ever mension I'm a person "De Armas Tomar..!?!?" A.K.A. I Do not fuck around


The swingarm was a piece of cake to take out, a 10MM 12 sided socket work just fine to disconnect the final drive and swigarm (well for one nut you need a close end wrench do to clearance, but is no big deal)


Anyway to take the swingarm you need a 27MM socket (28Milimiter I can not remenber ) and then a 6MM allen to take the two pivot rods, out so easy, plus a side effect , you can actually adjust the locaction of the swingarm by moving the two rods one side or another(on the oilheads, the Right side is Fix), this will become really useful very soon.

sorry no fotos of this part.


My friend mark came to visit, with out him you will never see this part since I was a "Little" to bussy to be taking pictures..


Yes the next time I will take the clutch actuator push rod from the back, but this time i forgot,,,
but ...You Don't forget...!!!!!!!!! is such a pain.


I really Really Love this Shit.


Then becomes time to Try some stuff.


Yes, YES a paralever swingarm


Before you start the whole thing about "Keeping her a classic", well first I Don't give a F^^K about "CLassic" and then it make a lot more sense to me to only have one type of rear wheel I can trade , from golem> to my bicycle rack bike> to PEZZ-Stilense and viseversa since I don't have much space to keep spares on my little studio(this palace is over in about two month, one ore reason to get Golem going before is to late)


Mounting the new swingarm (for now) was super easy (I don't care if is not exact at the moment) in fact is nothing to it, nothing to cut, well actually the upper member on the frame , the ones that carry the battery box bracket needs to go or move upwards about 3/4 of a inch since it touches the swingarm.

Hello Houston now we have a REALLY BIg ProBleM...!!!!!!!!!!!


the freaking new swingarm places the wheel ReaLLy far from center.


so I took some very basic and rudimentary measurements.

F^^K


Firsts ussing a long punch coming out for the center of the engine, ussing the Clutch splines to hold it.


Yeah the Middle of the Blue tape is soppose to be on Axis with the Puch


well in this case they are about 1 1/4' apart.


i'm not worry, I sure i can do a few thing to "Convince" everybody to get along, ussing my "Holistic aproach" of cutting a little here and moving a little there.

Now ussing the whole subframe for referece, the exact same amout.


Be sure is much more to come..
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Old 02-16-2007, 08:08 AM   #17
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Lets start with the Motor

I am having 5 x 74mm Crankshafts made here in Oz

I will pencil you in for one No????

With the 74mm stroke and 99mm bore you will have 1139cc

Now if you run 100mm pistons you will have 1162cc, but I reckon its too much of a stretch .

I am planning to get a pattern to JE pistons and have em custom made, but I have about 2 weeks of study to complete before I can get busy on this stuff.
So what do i need to do. . .!?!?
were do i send the money. . .??

Actually maybe we need more than one, let me ask R-dubb, he is the man in charge of the triad (3 at least) of projects, and I get "whatever is Left"

personally I'm building a Airhead more than anything do to their famous reliabiltiy, so i don't want to compromise this bike by making it into some stupid hot-rod (weak tranny does not help) oviuslly the more power the better but i don't want any "Molotof" compromises if is possible.

I don't care much about top-end horse power, but I do about a flat (steedy upwards) increase of the power delivery to improve and facilitate drivavility in the dirt...

I want more than anything a really torque base powerplant...

also will be great if I can use one of the "narrow blocks" (from the /5 and /6 I beleive) to make the bike as skinny & narrow as possible (Trees, berms, cracks, rocks, Cars, riders, racers, etc)

Again i know nothing about this bikes so maybe I'm stiicking my boot in between my teeth, exept for the fact I want to hack them up.
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Old 02-16-2007, 08:14 AM   #18
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I want more than anything a really torque base powerplant...

Looks like a great start Ricky ... I will be watching this one all the way through !!!!
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Old 02-16-2007, 08:15 AM   #19
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go Ricky! 'De Armas Tomar' indeed


Great pics, thanks Mark for taking them so we can all see the action!
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Old 02-16-2007, 09:35 AM   #20
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Lets start with the Motor

I am having 5 x 74mm Crankshafts made here in Oz

I will pencil you in for one No????

With the 74mm stroke and 99mm bore you will have 1139cc

Now if you run 100mm pistons you will have 1162cc, but I reckon its too much of a stretch .
Okay Pezz I give up...

for the last 12 hours I'm being trying to understand how this idea of yours is going to work (i'm sure you know what you are doing), but i can not make sense out of it..

I understand how you increase the amount of volume on the chambers by making the distance in between the connecting rods shorter, but how do you keep the compression to the same lever since the piston are not going to reach as far into the chamber.

plus this sound very expensive if you are going to build them from the ground up.

how much are they going to cost ...!?!?

or are you going to re-manufacture a used bmw crank...!?

just wondering.
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Old 02-16-2007, 09:40 AM   #21
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go Ricky! 'De Armas Tomar' indeed
Yeah don't ever mess with a Mad Colombian that is for sure.
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Great pics, thanks Mark for taking them so we can all see the action!
99% of the time I'm alone at this place, so is great to have company, not to mension a lot safer in case something happend to me since i'm kinf of clumsy with tools


Plus other people keep you on your toes and make you aware of silly mistake you make (mark is super dupper smart in many ways, so it helps a lot) ut he also has a job, so i never really see him uch
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:03 AM   #22
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measurement and more measurement even if they all tell the same story.

The ruler is on top of the shock mount, yeah that bad


Just because the rulers form a cross does not mean the PEZZ_Stilense is death.


ussing a vice from the center of the rear subframe, same thing.


a better view


The distance fluctuates from One inch to 1 3/4 but i'm sure is do to my primitive careless & measureents,no time to waste at this moment until i mount everything propertlly to really measure things up.


Just diferent views for FYI porpuses only.










personally i love the concept of this picture (the foto is lamme) but I like how the light and the shadow kind of tell the tale of the conversion into the Darkness


so here is that i plan to do to solve this canandrum (suggestion as ussual are very welcome)

I'm going to set the swingarm as far to the right as possible, ussing the double adjusters, i think I can get around 10MM of movement to the right doing this with out any machining shimming, nothing, well a little magic, but nothing drastic.

if that is not suffient, I'm going to have JP my master fabricator mill the inner piece of the frame mount and then build it up farder away from the center axis of the bike (I will gain about 6MM to 8MM that way, maybe even more if necesary)


Things that need to be on AXIS...
*the Wheels need to track on the same exact axix (line) for a variaty of reason including simetry, handleling, equal easiness in turning, nimbleness, center of gravity, tyre wear pattern, fork dive under braking, etc)

* the Shock needs to be mount right in the middle of the frame (lower shock mount is on axis with the center line of the wheel) but is not a big deal if is mounted a little to the side.

* The Output shaft/ Shaft drive/ swingarm tunnelthis is very ovius but actually maybe the most dificult thing to achive, yes I can get the wheel to be on axix with the center line of the bike, but what happend if the tranny output shaft does not aling with the bore on the swingarm,(yes i do have some wiggle room but is not much ore than 5MM each way) so sadlly i think I need to aling the Swingarm to the Output shaft first and fore most (make them concentric, vertically and horizontally ) and then aling as best as possible the center line of the swingarm in reference to the frame, and then do whatever it takes to center the wheel on the bike, by "Dishing the wheel" (Moving the rim side to side in reference to the hub) and NO you can not install SPacers, since the Hub needs to move close to the final drive than farder away) but then again i losse all the advantages of having the same rear wheel for all the bikes.


Or I can just say Fuck-it and ride the bike with the two wheels going on paralever paths but not exactlly the same line (the K bikes have done that for years), but I preffer to do it right if I can.
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:28 AM   #23
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Her First Bath

man Mark sometimes is so lamee at taking fotos.

anyway I give the frame, engine and franny a big old bath, but i think is being many years since that hapepnd and the grease on the block is about 1/8" Yes I did use all this fancy solvent, and they kinf of help but scraping works even better even if it takes forvever


she is getting a lot better, the frame is actually not so bad, the engine. oh man, is being two day and at least 20 washes and my hands, arms and elbowss still dirty and greasy



this is the very basic way the shock is going to be mounted, a little trick I learn from my Golem research.



basically the shock is going to be tilt forward to about 45 deggres, and a "A-Frame" (similar to a A-arm actually) attach to the upward tubes of the frame is going to provide a pivot point so the shock can be mount somehow longitudinally, the lower menebr will be a small clevis with adjusters, but so far I plan to have a One to one rathio and not a progresive linkage, but that can be upgraded , updated very easilly by changing the members of the linkage,


somehow something similar to this but far more simpler, and with out the rocker arm that will change the lenght of the paralever trailing arm.



well that is it for now...

Enjoy, dream and please use you brain to figure out if i'm doing something really really wrong, but remenber first I paint with Broad strokes and the farder i go along the small the brush will get, so don't get stuck on details until the big picture is clear, sound and proven.

Best design advice I can ever give you, other than never becoming a designer in the frist place specially on a field full of Copycats and lammoSupremos but sadlly is a little to late for me.
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:51 AM   #24
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Wow, I love this thread so far Ricky! Any chance the motor actually runs?

BTW, I am seriously considering not going forward with a front-end conversion on my R100GS, and should have made up my mind in the next week or two... if I don't I will have a set of WP Extreme's already shortened to just about the perfect legnth for your or R-Dubb's project for sale... The stupid custom triple clamps with the 38mm offset are now $586 Euro and that might just be too much for old Solo Lobo to fork out.....
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Old 02-16-2007, 12:15 PM   #25
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go Ricky! 'De Armas Tomar' indeed


Great pics, thanks Mark for taking them so we can all see the action!
I'm still waiting for my royalty checks on those photos.... does anyone know what a photographer makes these days???

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Old 02-16-2007, 12:20 PM   #26
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man Mark sometimes is so lamee at taking fotos.
Hey....

Maybe if I didn't have to worry about your camera spontaneously combusting in my hands every time I took a freakin' picture...
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Old 02-16-2007, 12:27 PM   #27
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Wow, I love this thread so far Ricky!
I'm glad I can tickle your fancy, but is going to get better so don't go away, plus we are going to have at least two other projects so stay tune..
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Any chance the motor actually runs?
Oh man I have not idea, we are not even going to try, in fact is somehow apart already since we are going to replace the r80jugs for a set of r100 head ricks already have.

besides each one of this engines were are getting is going to taken apart from the start (Regardless), inspected, up-graded if require then balance, new bearing install and then rebuild (same as the tranny's and final drives) so we know they are sound.

the basic idea is No Hockymamma Pennytech cutting corners cheppo ricky stuff, everything is going to get done right, to the point if you want to take any of the bikes to the end of the world they will be ready for it (that is the way i like to do things, but ussually i don't have the resourses)
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BTW, I am seriously considering not going forward with a front-end conversion on my R100GS.
maybe wait and see how we do with this few frames that we are re-making and then I pass the secrets and discoveries on to you and the rest of the crew
(will have patterns and suggestions availlable someday when we know they work) so you can make a more educated decision.

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and should have made up my mind in the next week or two...
Personally I think the stock forks are a freaking Joke, they flex like a pair of spagetties in the wind, plus the Hydrolics are from Arquimedes times , but if you don't stiffen the frame to take the "Better" forks you better leave the bike along since will handle even more funny and maybe even fail do to the increase leverage of the longer stiffer suspension.

In fact I give you a Tip (I'm going to be secret-less on this none money making projects in honor to mister PEZZ ways) we are going to modified the headstocks of the frames so they can house current taper roller bearings (OEM KTM parts since they are easy to find) by making some how of a "Bicycle headset" (weldable insert) that will be welded on into the stock headtube including a big overlap section. so the widder bearing can be fit, oviuslly the gussets will emanate from there into the rest of the frame (this is going to be fun for sure.)

you wait until you see my aproach to the backbone toptube stiffener and the swingarm mounts, Bloddy brilliant, i'm so proud.

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if I don't I will have a set of WP Extreme's already shortened to just about the perfect legnth for your or R-Dubb's project for sale...
Great we take them, in fact we take as many as we can find, since they are the perfect forks for this heavy bikes.

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The stupid custom triple clamps with the 38mm offset are now $586 Euro and that might just be too much for old Solo Lobo to fork out.....
I'm not totally convince about this long trails (forward upset of the triple clamps) on this forks, personally i'm going to start with a stock 22MM and see what the consequences are (Cheaper, simpler and they are already there) but then again i want to "Massage" the head angle (if R-Dubb lets me) so we have more current angles and not some stupid rake out fork like on a chopper since that will be so lamme

anyway if everything fails we are going to have about five sets (of the long offset) made By JP (but they are not going to be cheap since the low production volume) and I also plan to make a Fork brace for the Extremes, to make them even more rigid (axle is much to skinny and running a single oversize rotor they are going to twist) and this bridge will even acomodate a low fender mount.

I can not tell you how much they are going to cost, but were five eat six can do it too, so you are more than welcome.

I'm totally tyred of business stuff do to all the creeps but if we have sufficient numbers we can CNC the parts and get a better price point.

In fact hopefully JP is going to make mine out of welded cromolly tubes just for kicks and to be "Diferent" (I just love his structural work so much, I want to have it anywere it make sense).


so don't be impacient, I realize you may not sell us the forks, but who cares, what is important is for each person is happy and satisfied.
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man Mark sometimes is so lamee at taking fotos.
... then again, it could be just the subject matter...

You decide: this...



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hey ricky... would you mind pointing me in the direction of the golem rebirth thread?
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