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Old 02-19-2007, 04:20 PM   #1
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Pissed Were can I find pictures of airhead frame Braces

I remenber many years ago (don't remenber if i saw them here or on a magazine) some fotos of Bikes with a "tranverse" braces that connect the headtube to the swingarm mounting area.(I think they were track oriented bikes) the tubes were "Periferal" aka on the outside of the frame pasig in between the cilinder heads and the carburator manufolds

anybody know were can i finds some examples of this type braces..

I'm ready to start working on Pezz-Stilense Frame..

and ovislly i want to make at as nice as stiff as possible can.


the braces I'm thinking about are diagonal and Bolt-On togheter to the frame since you need to Un-bolt them out to be able stract the engine.

I'm hoping to find some back ground ideas to make my own as best as possible, specially problem areas to avoid ad/or Improve

any pictures, ideas, links No-No's, will be apreaciated

she need some serius help for sure, like any other Airhead
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:38 PM   #2
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Call Cal BMW. At one time they had a local welder make them plates that were similar to the Wudo reenforcement kit. The only issue I've seen with the frame reenforcements is that they isolate any longitudinal flexing to the top tube...which eventually cracks at it's midpoint. I would either leave the frame alone and in it's normal "rubber cow" state or install the plates with an additional axial stiffener for the top tube.
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:46 PM   #3
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Search frame reinforcements on this site. I sent you an email as well. I have a large file of pics.
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:59 PM   #4
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:04 PM   #5
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Call Cal BMW. At one time they had a local welder make them plates that were similar to the Wudo reenforcement kit.
I spend a few hours talking with kari and reading his poems the other day, what a great guy he is, exept he did not tell me about this plates.

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The only issue I've seen with the frame reenforcements is that they isolate any longitudinal flexing to the top tube...which eventually cracks at it's midpoint. I would either leave the frame alone and in it's normal "rubber cow" state
I have a idea for a Internal gusset of the top tube that i think will work really well somehow of a "honeycomp" but i just want to make sure the pivot for the swingarm does not flex like a palm tree specially since i'm going to run Paralever from a Oilhead on it.

maybe I can make some "Volumetric" (3-D) gussets to make it a little stiffer.
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or install the plates with an additional axial stiffener for the top tube.
lie in high durometer elastomer mount on "Ball Joings" kind of semi,rigid semi flexible ounts...!?!?

Thanks don Jorge you are alwasy right there when i need you...
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:07 PM   #6
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Search frame reinforcements on this site. I sent you an email as well. I have a large file of pics.
Oh Randy I spend like half and hours wondering all over in fact i use like seven key words, but nothing came up

i send you my e-mail in a second
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:08 PM   #7
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Oh yeah now we are cooking with gas


is that your Bike...!?!?

if it is what do you think about them,...?

to much pain to deal with them, or they do make a diference.?

thanks Jt
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:27 PM   #8
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oy ricky!... you're the greatest man... i'd hate to have to whack you with a 12" crescent wrench... but if you start every thread with the burning head symbol on the title i'll be forced to.

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Old 02-19-2007, 05:28 PM   #9
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As near to perfection as you can get.

[quote=jtwind]

Quite the most elegant looking cafe race BMW that I have ever seen. Funny how the x brace turns the "featherbed style" frame into a "garden gate" (I am speaking Norton)
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:33 PM   #10
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Quite the most elegant looking cafe race BMW that I have ever seen. Funny how the x brace turns the "featherbed style" frame into a "garden gate" (I am speaking Norton)
Yeap...

Just look at the headlight bracket and the trumpets on the carburators (not exactlly filter but who cares.)


I do have a question..

If the airbox is not require anymore why do they keep the battery on the original place, that is kind of lamme don't you think..!?!?
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:38 PM   #11
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oy ricky!... you're the greatest man... i'd hate to have to whack you with a 12" crescent wrench... but if you start every thread with the burning head symbol on the title i'll be forced to.

love and kisses,

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well Loaded i do have two reasons, but if you think is to much please delite them.

that way i can recognize all the PeZZ-Stilense treads

and then that is exactlly how my brain is feeling this days...


On Freaking FIRE in a good way that is
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:50 PM   #12
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Ever been here Rick?

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Old 02-19-2007, 05:54 PM   #13
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On Freaking FIRE in a good way that is
yer a crazy fucker isn't you... so i'm not going to tell you about my ktm exc framed 1150 oil head in "dakar style" until you're done the pez.
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:01 PM   #14
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CC Products????

I'm not sure but I think those braces were once offered by CC Products.
Try a search that way. There was a set on ebay about a month ago.
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:02 PM   #15
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yer a crazy fucker isn't you... so i'm not going to tell you about my ktm exc framed 1150 oil head in "dakar style" until you're done the pez.
You Suker

Same as I'm not going to tell you about my KTM640 base R11GS, maybe not as fancy as yours, but at least my Butt will not be on Fire...!!!

oh wait, but you guys can make a nice comfy seat, so maybe is not so bad


Actually Pezz_T is going to feature a EXC rear subframe (at least for now) including plastic panels,tail, etc (coming next week) the only thing missing is the seat that will fit that subframe and then a flat type bottom tank...

so i need to wait to find the tank before i can look for the proper seat or modified a RFS seat pan and then get the James's treament on it.
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