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Old 09-01-2014, 05:46 PM   #1
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Has anyone used TruFuel???

It states that it is Ethanol free, with synthetic 2 cycle oil. The first time I used it, I thought "that's a different smell" but can't place what it is. Definitely not petro! Any ideas what it is?
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Old 09-01-2014, 06:03 PM   #2
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http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/pdf...7027bff0ec.pdf

Gasoline + 2T oil + fuel stabilizer (the part of the mix that you're smelling)
Why are you paying over $20/gallon for fuel?
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Old 09-01-2014, 06:32 PM   #3
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I'm not sure how far back the OP's sense of smell goes back with gasoline, but it changed in the late 90's. The Government (you know, those guys who are always trying to protect us from ourselves... for our own good) required adding a noxious odor to gasoline to stop huffing. Gasoline (unaltered) smells a bit like toluene or other solvents, which has a paint thinner type smell (IMO, I think it smelled better than most solvents).

Rural areas sell non-ethanol standard gasoline at the pump. Mixing any two-stroke oil with standard gasoline and adding a fuel stabilizer will out perform TruFuel for stability and storage. But, there is nothing wrong with TruFuel.
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Old 09-02-2014, 01:34 PM   #4
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I run it in my string trimmer, 40:1, no problems after going through several cans. I get about 3 fillups per can. Only premix tool I run. Nice not to have to stop at one store for bottles of oil then to the gas station for a fillup.
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Old 09-02-2014, 06:32 PM   #5
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I run it. I don't use the chain saw that much so I like not having to worry about anything. I figure it is about $35/gallon.
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:58 PM   #6
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But...but....StaBil....mix it yourself...$4.00 gallon total.....

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Old 09-03-2014, 03:57 AM   #7
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Stabil and E10 premix that sits still goes to hell pretty quickly. But I have a can of TruFuel well over a year old that still runs my rarely used string trimmer perfectly. Plus I like having it there ready for emergency chainsaw use.

I wouldn't think of it for my MXC. That bike uses more fuel than my truck. But the canned stuff works great for occasionally used tools. Zero starting issues since switching to it no matter how long the fuel sits on a shelf.

Worth the extra few bucks to not clean a carb the rare times I need to run a fuel sipping tool.
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:06 AM   #8
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But...but....StaBil....mix it yourself...$4.00 gallon total.....

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Yea, it is a bit of a rip off but I think it is worth it because the closest place that sells ethanol free fuel is about an hour away. I am at Home Depot on almost a daily basis, so I can just buy a can while I am there.
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:13 AM   #9
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I've run it, can't say I cared for it. Definitely required readjusting the carburetor on the chainsaw, and there was an appreciable power reduction over using a high octane gasoline. Did not use it in the string trimmer. All in all, not worthwhile to me for my use.

Where I have considered it is as a backup or emergency fuel supply on the street bike. As in carry a can of their 4-stroke fuel for a one time emergency use. Their metal can seals well and that has some appeal to me in my saddle bag. No leaks, no smells. That said, I still haven't done it.
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:23 AM   #10
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The Government (you know, those guys who are always trying to protect us from ourselves... for our own good) required adding a noxious odor to gasoline to stop huffing.
Do you have a reference for this?

I'd not heard of it before, and after a bit of searching haven't found any mention online of refiners adding odorants to gasoline; or any evidence of a government mandate that they do so.
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Old 09-03-2014, 09:46 AM   #11
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Do you have a reference for this?

I'd not heard of it before, and after a bit of searching haven't found any mention online of refiners adding odorants to gasoline; or any evidence of a government mandate that they do so.
Sounds like he's mixed the addition of Mercaptan to natural gas with gasoline. I.e.; gas is gas.
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Old 09-03-2014, 10:48 AM   #12
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Maybe I am full of shit? Why does aviation fuel not smell like pump gas - is it not also gasoline? Maybe my sense of smell is completely different from anyone else?

The best I got for reference, which would be a good lead for those inquiring minds is: http://thecarguy.com/articles/gasoline.htm

Also, just as a comment, storing regular 'pump gas' in a metal gas can (good luck finding one of those any more) will extend the gas shelf life considerably. The plastic gas cans are HDPE which acts as a molecular sieve allowing gasoline vapors to pass and oxygen to enter. It's the interaction of gasoline (or what it is composed of now with pump gas) with air that causes decomposition.

But seriously, no one realized they changed the pump gas back in the 90's?

Edit: here is some links to the EPA for reformulated gas
http://www.epa.gov/OTAQ/fuels/gasoli.../rfg/index.htm
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/fuels/gasoli.../rfg/areas.htm

There are many places in the US which don't sell RFG, so my experience may not match theirs. In which case, putting pump gas in a metal can with some 2stroke oil and Stabil will be much more economical than TruFuel. Which then raises the question why anyone in those areas would even consider TruFuel. Nope, too many questions to continue this dialog.

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Old 09-03-2014, 12:31 PM   #13
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Why does aviation fuel not smell like pump gas - is it not also gasoline?
No, i'ts not the same. Many still contain lead, few contain any ethanol, generally the octane rating is substantially higher, etc. Avgas is appreciably different than automotive gasoline.
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Old 09-03-2014, 12:39 PM   #14
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Our small rural fire department has gone to using TruFuel in all of our small engines (Jaws, chainsaws, chopsaws, potable pumps, etc.) due to the problems we were having getting these items started when we needed them (due to ethanol mix gas, carb issues, etc.). Imagine a wreck with a bunch of Firefighters standing around the Jaws trying to pull start it with no luck, someone trapped in the vehicle screaming, bystanders, etc.= bad scene! With the TruFuel we have found things start without a problem.
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But seriously, no one realized they changed the pump gas back in the 90's?
No, I was aware of reformulated gas. Your earlier comment was just the first I had ever heard about odorant being added to gasoline to prevent huffing.

It's entirely possible that the smell of pump gas changed along with the composition, but I suspect that was a side effect of the changes rather than a goal.
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