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Old 07-27-2014, 08:45 AM   #1
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Volvo XC70 intermittent no-start

I'm the new owner of a 2004 XC70, with around 175k miles. It's been well cared-for, and runs fine...

...except for yesterday, when it would not start. I've had this car for around a month, and been commuting to/from work with it without any trouble. Yesterday I was going to run a quick errand and the engine cranked, but would not fire. The only thing that comes to mind is that it was much later in the day, and therefore much warmer, when I went to use the car than it normally is.

After several tries, including leaving the car for a couple of hours and returning to it when cooler, I again attempted to start it, with the same result: engine turned over fine, but would not fire. I then squirted some starter fluid down the air intake, and the car fired up and ran just fine. It ran fine, and then restarted fine several times.

That indicates a fueling problem to me, but I'm not sure where to look next (aside from taking it to my mechanic tomorrow to pull codes, etc.). Anyone have suggestions?
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Old 07-27-2014, 01:50 PM   #2
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I have a 2004 XC70 with 202k miles. Love it. I bought it with 180k back in November.

I've never had that issue, but I cay say that it's worth the money to take it to the dealer and not just a mechanic, unless it's a Volvo specific mechanic. They can pull codes that a normal OBDII scanner won't find since Volvo likes to have their codes only visible by a VIDA DICE database linked system. You can spend a couple hundred bucks on top of a normal OBDII scanner to be able to read the codes yourself, but it still won't tell you exactly what the code means.

I've actually been quite pleased with dealer costs for getting work done too. Boost controller was just a tick over $200 to diagnose, repair, and reset all codes. Wheel speed sensor was under $300. That one time I had to do both rear wheel bearings, front axles, entire parking brake system, brakes all around, and a new wheel hub assembly was a bit steep, but they gave me dealer cost on the parts and even called me up the day after I brought the car home to make sure everything was still good.


Despite the cost, the dealer service is actually really nice. They treat me like I just bought a brand new $50,000 car when I come in with my 200k mile 10 year old car. Suede leather couches, premium channels on the TV, free coffee and snacks, and so much more in the waiting area. My service manager is awesome and tells me the truth about what I actually need done vs what I should do myself at home to save money like how to change my own transmission fluid vs paying almost $500 to have the dealer do it. There's no transmission dipstick on the vehicle, btw. One time, they had to keep my car for a COUPLE HOURS and didn't have a loaner car for me to drive so the service manager gave me his personal car to drive home. They hand wash my car every time I bring it in, even if I'm just stopping by to talk to my service manager.


Sorry I can't help you with your current problem. With good SNOW tires, the car will go anywhere in the winter. I bought my wife a newer XC90 with the same 2.5T motor in it to drive around after this past winter. Her 4x4 Suburban with aggressive all-season tires was dead in the water trying to get up our driveway with a couple inches of snow on it, but my XC70 had no issues going up and down the driveway with over 2 feet of snow on it (yes, that's deeper than the bumper).

Regular maintenance parts are very reasonable from IPD. You can even buy Volvo OEM parts from IPD.
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Old 07-27-2014, 02:14 PM   #3
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I agree 100% on taking it to the dealer or a very qualified dealer alternative that knows Volvos. They are amazing cars when you keep up with them. We have 2 in the family a 2006 XC90 V8 and a 2004 S60R. They are quirky enough that they really need experts to work with them and most parts require programing via the VIDA system to get them to work after. Congrats on buying a great car... despite this little issue. I like hearing of people that value the "near luxury" and sensibility of a Volvo.
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Old 07-27-2014, 02:32 PM   #4
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I agree 100% on taking it to the dealer or a very qualified dealer alternative that knows Volvos. They are amazing cars when you keep up with them. We have 2 in the family a 2006 XC90 V8 and a 2004 S60R. They are quirky enough that they really need experts to work with them and most parts require programing via the VIDA system to get them to work after. Congrats on buying a great car... despite this little issue. I like hearing of people that value the "near luxury" and sensibility of a Volvo.
My mechanic is a Volvo specialist, and has commented a couple of times on the cost he pays for the VIDA system. I'm comfortable with them.

It's a weird issue, though; the car started right up today (though the in-car thermometer read some 20F cooler than it did yesterday when it failed to start). We'll see what they come up with tomorrow, and go from there.
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Old 07-27-2014, 03:12 PM   #5
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Is the check engine light on? If not there may be no relevant codes.

Fuel pump control module issues are not unknown and might not code.

intermittent crank angle sensor could cause the same, but would likely code.

Just educated guesses mind you. Have someone who knows Volvos plug it in and/or diagnose it.
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Old 07-27-2014, 04:33 PM   #6
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Is the check engine light on? If not there may be no relevant codes.
When my turbo boost controller went bad it didn't set off a CEL or any of the other three warning lights on the dash, but threw 7 codes picked up in the VIDA DICE system.
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Old 07-27-2014, 06:01 PM   #7
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Is the check engine light on? If not there may be no relevant codes.

Fuel pump control module issues are not unknown and might not code.

intermittent crank angle sensor could cause the same, but would likely code.

Just educated guesses mind you. Have someone who knows Volvos plug it in and/or diagnose it.
No check engine light. It's at the mechanic's place now, and we'll see what they find tomorrow.

I'll be driving the Chrysler Voyager in the meantime.
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Update: mechanic says RPM sensor issue, recommends replacement. Sensor is around $70, 1.5hrs labor to do the job.

We'll see how it goes...
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