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Old 11-21-2009, 11:33 PM   #1681
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Can you post some close ups of the doors??? My garage door is insulated, but I have thought about doing something similar to help keep the heat in. The Filly is planning on making me "blankets" that will attach with velcro to cover the ends and help keep some of the heat from escaping at the ends

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They were plain uninsulated doors, and I bought that styrofoam stuff with the silver foil type coating, cut to size and glued them in. Made a big difference and doesn't look all that bad.
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Old 11-22-2009, 12:31 PM   #1682
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I've been working on the shed quite a bit lately. This weekend I got it tar papered up and the second layer of flooring in. All that is left for the exterior is trim board and siding. I'm still wondering what type of siding I should use. I was thinking cement board but the wife is getting irritated with the shed being nicer then the house. She came out there and threw a mini hissy about how her house look like crap, and the shed will make it look even more like crap. So, heck man. I may go a different way. I was thinking corrugated metal and go with the old school look. Anyhow, on to pictures...
Here's the shed one night this week. I thought it looked neat w/ the lights on.

Last weekend I worked to close up the majority of all the open cracks. This will help for when I put the siding on. What ever type I decide to use. This weekend I put in the second layering of floor. I originally put down 3/4" ply wood. It worked very well but didn't feel awesome enough. So by suggestions of friends and forum members, I added another 3/4" OSB tongue and groove. I spent a lot of time to get this right, and I think it was worth it. It looks 300 times better and feels much better. I almost feel confident on pulling the bike in. Oh, right, pictures... :)

I'm really starting to see the rewards of doing things right and taking my time rather then rushing to see and end product. Also this weekend, I put 95% of the tar paper on and trimmed the shingles on the roof.

I ran out of tar paper and couldn't get the front or rear gables done. Anyone have about 24 ft of tar paper they don't need? I'd hate to go buy a whole other role just to cover those 2 sections. Eh, either way it still looks good. Next on the list is to finish up the trim work. I need to trim out the 4 corners and the 2 gables. Then I'll be working on siding and under pinning. Anyhow, looks great if you ask me. :)
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Old 11-22-2009, 02:45 PM   #1683
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Siding

Want to really mess with the wife? Go find an old, real old metal building and get some of the siding. You know the real nice 'n rusty stuff. That might make her give you a break before she demands that the house get's a make-over...
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:03 PM   #1684
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Wowzers... That's some nice stuff. I need to come drink a couple beers with you.
That would be great. There's always some in the fridge. If you're ever up this way, the door is open. I spend a lot of time in the garage.
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:06 PM   #1685
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Nope, '65 Ply 2dr post Hemi.
I used to have a '65 Plymouth Valiant Barracuda (first year for the 'Cuda, thus the "Valiant" preface). Loved that car, I replaced the stock 273 with a 318 with 360 heads on it. It used to go like stink but was a nightmare to get stopped (single Master Cylinder with drum brakes on all four corners).
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:15 PM   #1686
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They were plain uninsulated doors, and I bought that styrofoam stuff with the silver foil type coating, cut to size and glued them in. Made a big difference and doesn't look all that bad.
I'm interested in more detail as well. I've been planning to insulate my doors with the same material.
It looks like you attached the hinges on top of the insulation.
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:17 PM   #1687
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Workshop in progress.

Here's my developing motorcycle shop/garage.

The long view:



Closer up showing the chicken wire lattice that holds the stucco (stucco is on now but awaits the color coat). I had my builder add the fake vigas (logs sticking out of the exterior wall) to match my old adobe house.



The garage door is 16' X 8' and the mandoor is 4' X 7'. I find I like the proportions. The garage door is insulated to R-17, so it is more insulated than my walls.

I have found from some experts that stucco is not a very good exterior for a shop because the vibrations from an air compressor and vigorous pounding on the work benches can crack and loosen the stucco. I might place rubber bumpers between my work benches and the walls.

Here is a view of the transverse hoist beam and one of the skylights.



I placed electrical outlets on three separate circuits every 24 inches on the wall over my workbenches. (One bench will be for dirty work such as engine rebuilds and the like; the bench on the opposite wall will be for cleaner work and detail work.)

Here is what the shop is trying to mimic--an old solid mud (adobe) home built in the old mexican style. We are working on many parts of the property so that is why it looks such a mess.





Thank you all for ideas. I am incorporating quite a few elements of other man castles from this thread into my 26' X 30' shop.
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:22 PM   #1688
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Must be quite a change from your digs in Mass, Cordell. Looks great! Keep us posted on the progress.
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:29 PM   #1689
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Yep, Mike, now I won't be bumping my head unless I really try. I still have scars from hitting my head on the garage door braces in that crowded garage in Mass. Just no fun being 6' 6" tall in a world made for short people. The new ceilings are at 9' 8".

Thanks for noticing. Come down and visit.
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:34 PM   #1690
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What I did that I really would recommend:

Increased size from 20' deep to 24' deep. Whoever recommended that to me, thank you SO MUCH. 26' would have been even better.
Outdoor area under overhang with 4' door and outdoor electrical and water (and air hookup, coming soon). Have dusty/dirty work to do? Roll it outside on a table and do it out there (area in bottom right in pic below).



Garage doors (insulated!) have large-radius bend to get them closer to ceiling. With a 9' ceiling, you want to maximize your headroom.



Separated workshop area from 'garage' area by a 7'x7' doorway. If I ever set up a wood shop in that area, I can keep the garage area clean by setting up a clear plastic curtain.



Spray foam for insulation
50A 220V outlets
Steel door frame reinforcements
Spec-grade outlets everywhere
4" 4000psi slab with rebar (not WWF)
I-joist construction (no "support pole" in the middle of the garage)
Apron extends past the deep overhang
4" PVC carries downspout water far away from the structure
Lots of light (T8s are efficient and throw a lot of lumens)
Outlets everywhere, including in the ceiling
TV cabling in the walls
Hot water (need it for the shower/bath upstairs)
HVAC
Epoxy floor with anti-skid in the urethane topcoat (awesome)
No floor drains (I just don't see the need, it's not a place for "daily driver" storage)
Tint on all glass (windows and doors)
A nice upstairs so that visitors have their own space


What I wish I had done:

Biggie: made the "garage" area just a little bit wider. I have steel cabinets and shelving on either side of the doors; it would be great if they were "tucked in" a little bit more so that they could easily be opened if a car pulls into the garage.

Insulated the slab. Even here in VA, that slab gets cold -- not enough to sweat in the spring, but cold nonetheless.

Motion sensor on ALL exterior lights. (easily fixed)

Plumbed for air inside the walls; poured a small slab out back for a compressor.

Plumbed for mixing hot/cold water outside ... that cold water is COLD!

Better thought-out locations for switches etc. so as not to interfere with shelving etc. Think carefully about this stuff.

Lean-to out back for a tractor.

I think that's everything ...
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:42 PM   #1691
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Ummmm.....that bike looks familiar...

Do I see you riding through Bayers Lake on occasion?
Yep, that'd be me.
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:25 PM   #1692
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Awesome castles keep coming up. Talk about motivation...
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:27 PM   #1693
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Want to really mess with the wife? Go find an old, real old metal building and get some of the siding. You know the real nice 'n rusty stuff. That might make her give you a break before she demands that the house get's a make-over...
I've put that past her as a suggestion after the tizzy. She got really quite. So, I just took advantage of the silence and went outside. i'm sure once I start on siding, she won't care as long as it's done. She just like to have a say ever so often.
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:28 PM   #1694
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That would be great. There's always some in the fridge. If you're ever up this way, the door is open. I spend a lot of time in the garage.
I'll be up in Masland, Ohio first week of the year. i'll be up there for a week. I'm interested to see this snow everyone talks about. I've only seen up to 6 inches here.
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:34 PM   #1695
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Here's my developing motorcycle shop/garage.

The long view:



Closer up showing the chicken wire lattice that holds the stucco (stucco is on now but awaits the color coat). I had my builder add the fake vigas (logs sticking out of the exterior wall) to match my old adobe house.



The garage door is 16' X 8' and the mandoor is 4' X 7'. I find I like the proportions. The garage door is insulated to R-17, so it is more insulated than my walls.

I have found from some experts that stucco is not a very good exterior for a shop because the vibrations from an air compressor and vigorous pounding on the work benches can crack and loosen the stucco. I might place rubber bumpers between my work benches and the walls.

Here is a view of the transverse hoist beam and one of the skylights.



I placed electrical outlets on three separate circuits every 24 inches on the wall over my workbenches. (One bench will be for dirty work such as engine rebuilds and the like; the bench on the opposite wall will be for cleaner work and detail work.)

Here is what the shop is trying to mimic--an old solid mud (adobe) home built in the old mexican style. We are working on many parts of the property so that is why it looks such a mess.





Thank you all for ideas. I am incorporating quite a few elements of other man castles from this thread into my 26' X 30' shop.
Spruce Park area? Or somewhere in the Valley? Lots of potential there. s:
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