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Old 01-31-2012, 07:41 PM   #4216
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And assume the liability if you have issues with your lift when you use only one side to lift several hundred pounds.
That's why we have engineers.
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Old 01-31-2012, 07:46 PM   #4217
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Yes, and the engineers from the LIFT manufacturers specify to load all 4 arms as equally as possible.

That said, the way he's doing it I am sure is safe, as I would imagine that in application this lift will support adequately a vehicle that is unbalanced by the weight of his bike... Probably.

But in engineering this product to do what it is doing, you would also be violating the engineering recommendation of lift makers.

You have to figure that lifts vary, for instance this is probably very OK on a 10,000 pound doube upright lift with a top beam, this may be very not OK on a lighter lift with a bottom plate, where there is no structure at the top to resist the two uprights coming together. In application the goal of a double upright lift is to have the force primarily going as evenly as possible straight down into the ground through the metal uprights, and not a force that pulls one side in and back.
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Old 01-31-2012, 08:17 PM   #4218
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Yes, and the engineers from the LIFT manufacturers specify to load all 4 arms as equally as possible.

That said, the way he's doing it I am sure is safe, as I would imagine that in application this lift will support adequately a vehicle that is unbalanced by the weight of his bike... Probably.

But in engineering this product to do what it is doing, you would also be violating the engineering recommendation of lift makers.

You have to figure that lifts vary, for instance this is probably very OK on a 10,000 pound doube upright lift with a top beam, this may be very not OK on a lighter lift with a bottom plate, where there is no structure at the top to resist the two uprights coming together. In application the goal of a double upright lift is to have the force primarily going as evenly as possible straight down into the ground through the metal uprights, and not a force that pulls one side in and back.
True , but I cant imagine that a 600lb bike will have such an adverse effect .
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Old 01-31-2012, 09:16 PM   #4219
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True , but I cant imagine that a 600lb bike will have such an adverse effect .
Ya don't doubt you.

Just have to think, if this is you engineering a product for sale, even with a disclaimer like follow all recommendations of llift manufacturer, ensure adequate thickness, strength, and integrety of concrete anchors prior to use etc. etc.

You have to figure somewhere out there lies the moron who figures that it might not be a bad idea to lift the bike swung to the rear fully and extended rearwards so that it is close to the work bench. And that this moron may also not have had the correct diameter carbide tip drill for the anchors they used, and elected to use the next one larger because they had it. And said person kills themself.

And their family tries to sue the lift manfucturer who goes, shit right here in my manual it clearly states not to lift uneven loads, blah blah blah. So they go, huh, this product allows uneven loading.


I think its damn clever, and will probably set about making a similar unit for other usages.

But if its a commercial produuct one might consider a table that utilizes two opposing lift arms or similar to atleast "bridge" the uprights.

Commercial products = gotta avoid the dumbnuts.
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Old 01-31-2012, 09:29 PM   #4220
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put 600 pounds on the other side too

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Old 01-31-2012, 09:31 PM   #4221
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Old 01-31-2012, 09:33 PM   #4222
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Ya don't doubt you.

Just have to think, if this is you engineering a product for sale, even with a disclaimer like follow all recommendations of llift manufacturer, ensure adequate thickness, strength, and integrety of concrete anchors prior to use etc. etc.

You have to figure somewhere out there lies the moron who figures that it might not be a bad idea to lift the bike swung to the rear fully and extended rearwards so that it is close to the work bench. And that this moron may also not have had the correct diameter carbide tip drill for the anchors they used, and elected to use the next one larger because they had it. And said person kills themself.

And their family tries to sue the lift manfucturer who goes, shit right here in my manual it clearly states not to lift uneven loads, blah blah blah. So they go, huh, this product allows uneven loading.


I think its damn clever, and will probably set about making a similar unit for other usages.

But if its a commercial produuct one might consider a table that utilizes two opposing lift arms or similar to atleast "bridge" the uprights.

Commercial products = gotta avoid the dumbnuts.
Indeed . Great idea though . Might build one for my DRZ .
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Old 02-02-2012, 12:38 PM   #4223
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Can anyone visit the motorcyclist cafe? we might be in the area this summer.

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Old 02-02-2012, 05:14 PM   #4224
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Can anyone visit the motorcyclist cafe? we might be in the area this summer.
Hi Eddie, the MC B&B, Motorcyclist Cafe Barn and Bunkhouse is not really a Cafe or Restraunt or a Bed and Breakfast or for rent. It is something I have been building since mid '06 as my Man Cave but more importantly, it is something for members of www.Motorcyclistcafe.com, our little but fun forum. Visitors are always welcome, in fact more than a few Advrider members have joined the Motorcyclist Cafe. We have stuff donated from all over the world and a lot of members have donated a lot of time and effort to help with some of the more difficult items.

If you are comming thru this area let me know.
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Old 02-06-2012, 03:44 PM   #4226
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Old 02-07-2012, 05:52 AM   #4227
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I DID say SLOW build, right?

Well, after getting moved, always a major pain, and setting the house up with 22 sets of blinds, and buying new furniture, and putting up 19 pictures, 6 clocks, 2 TVs and numerous other things like shelving and hooks in bathrooms, I finally got started on the garage.

I got all the stuff moved to one side so I could start cleaning the drywall of messed up drywall mud and dirt. In a couple days I will be able to paint one side, and do the VCT flooring, then move everything and do the other side. (Exactly why I wanted to do this BEFORE we moved in!)

I expect to have some photos soon!

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Old 02-07-2012, 07:40 AM   #4228
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Old 02-07-2012, 04:51 PM   #4229
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...In a couple days I will be able to paint one side, and do the VCT flooring, then move everything and do the other side. (Exactly why I wanted to do this BEFORE we moved in!)

I expect to have some photos soon!

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Old 02-07-2012, 05:03 PM   #4230
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I plan on ordering my 12 x 24 Garage this weekend. It's going to be a pre fabbed unit and so it could be delivered in under a week. Now for the the accessories.

Has anyone used any of the Gladiator cabinetry from Lowes?









The reviews on the Lowes website are all favorable but I wanted to what some of you thought.
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