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Old 02-29-2012, 08:02 AM   #4381
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I am looking for suggestions. I think I just need to nail down where the lift will be installed, then I can put stuff in from there.
I have a neighbor with a 30' X 50'. It's so big, he's just lost with organization. Since he's not cramped, he's got crap just sitting around.

I'd put my lift in the back corner. As others stated, you can use it to store a car above and other stuff below. The post will be out of the way. My brother has two lifts in his shop. And, the post locations make a difference, in ease of use for the shop as a whole.

As someone else mentioned, go bigger with your overhead door. I went with a 12'W X 9'H on my shop. I have a 14' wide on another building. The 14' really opens up the area. You may look at adding another door on that back wall. It'll allow another entry point for the lift area (mower/tractor/kids) and allow crossflow of air and sunlight. I saw a guy's shop where he had his front and back walls in 2 doors each, side-by-side, about 12' apart. That allowed him a "pavillion" effect for get togethers and such. If my lot layout would've supported it, that's what I would've done.

Go with attic trusses. That'll allow you "X" more square footage of storage. There's no sense in wasting that space. The above mentioned guy had a stairwell in the space between his garage doors. It was a brilliant use of space.

Put in floor heat. The tubing is relatively inexpensive. You can add a water heater, as funds become available. My immediate neighbor did that on his 28'X48' shop. He uses a 40gal water heater. He guesstimates about $50/mo to heat it at 68 degrees. I encouraged my GF's employer to build their new building with floor heat. They say their utility bills are about 1/3 of the old building, despite doubling their square and cubic footage and running 4X the lights. They're using a high efficiency, "on-demand" water heater designed for floor heat. My biggest regret is not heating my floor.
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Old 02-29-2012, 10:20 AM   #4382
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I am looking for suggestions. I think I just need to nail down where the lift will be installed, then I can put stuff in from there.
I don't think that the space is big enough to store the bikes/cars/equipment with space to work on them AND a wood working area AND a metal shop area. I'd concentrate on making room to work around the cars (because they are hard to move), and then have a work area tied into the space for wood/metal/motorcycle work.

IMO that space would be more useful with 2 roll-up doors on the 30' side with the lift at one of these doors and the double doors towards the back to get the bikes and equipment in and out. This will leave you a work space in the middle for projects, plenty of room around the cars, and easy access to park another car under the lift you need to. My basement is 30x40 with one door on the 30' side in the same location as yours and I am always having to rearrange to get things out.
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Old 02-29-2012, 04:07 PM   #4383
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A little more progress today. I added the leftover floor moulding to the missing area under the man door.



Thanks for the great idea, it looks better in person.

I also cleaned my workbench and organized it a bit. Then used some extra tile for the top of it to cover the well worn and stained wood surface.



I know it isn't a typical work surface, but it is stain resistant and tough enough for basic work. Any hard hammering will be done on an alternate work area, or I will lay a pice of steel over the surface.

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Old 02-29-2012, 06:03 PM   #4384
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Costco had some really nice heavy duty workbenches for $200 . They're not too deep and work well for a residential garage .
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:02 PM   #4385
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Costco had some really nice heavy duty workbenches for $200 . They're not too deep and work well for a residential garage .

I saw them. Similar to mine, two drawers instead of four, but heavier duty and thicker top. Not bad for the price.

For my style of work this one does fine. I use my MC lift as a suplimental work bench, and get out my beat up plastic folding table if I need more area.

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Old 02-29-2012, 07:07 PM   #4386
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This photo of ScooterAug's garage reminded me of my situation.

I'm lucky enough to be able to leave my roll up door open while working in the garage most of the time. This effectively blanks out a good portion of my lighting from the ceiling. Does anyone have any ideas on mounting lighting to the garage door? A coiled cord to supply power to them or ??

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Old 02-29-2012, 07:07 PM   #4387
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you guys sure do have clean shops!
don't laugh at mine
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:46 PM   #4388
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This photo of ScooterAug's garage reminded me of my situation.

I'm lucky enough to be able to leave my roll up door open while working in the garage most of the time. This effectively blanks out a good portion of my lighting from the ceiling. Does anyone have any ideas on mounting lighting to the garage door? A coiled cord to supply power to them or ??

I have that exact piece of exercise equipment temporarily outside my garage.

As for the lighting, I assume you mean at night?

I would install some foot level lights on the wall shining up at that big white garage door. That should give you great direct and indirect light.

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Old 02-29-2012, 08:03 PM   #4389
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Does anyone have any ideas on mounting lighting to the garage door? A coiled cord to supply power to them or ??
I mounted another set, between the wall and the door tracks.

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you guys sure do have clean shops!
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OMG! I think a bomb went off in there.
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Old 02-29-2012, 08:35 PM   #4390
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This photo of ScooterAug's garage reminded me of my situation.

I'm lucky enough to be able to leave my roll up door open while working in the garage most of the time. This effectively blanks out a good portion of my lighting from the ceiling. Does anyone have any ideas on mounting lighting to the garage door? A coiled cord to supply power to them or ??

Your lights plug in, turn them around so they are lengthwise. I have 2 end lights like yours then 8' running the opposite direction. Each side is on it's own switch & I turn them on as I need them
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Old 02-29-2012, 09:16 PM   #4391
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It depends on if you polish them, or just put on a finishing fluid. Polished they are like any other wet smooth surface. Unpolished they grip pretty well.

I used a simple carpet knife and scored the tile at least 5 times, then snapped it off. Took about 20 seconds to cut each tile. If useing a power saw, you would want the teeth as fine as you could get them to prevent breaking off chunks of tile,

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Old 03-01-2012, 02:45 AM   #4392
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I mounted lights on an angle facing in towards the work area. Also, not sure if you can see it, but there is a 2x12 across the door opening with a light on it. The door runs up behind it. This way there is light from all four sides.
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Old 03-01-2012, 02:53 AM   #4393
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Woodworking area? Close it off from the mechanical shop area with a wall, or build an additional separate space Dust collection system is fine, along with dust segregation.
In the previous picture you can see a curtain track with a tarp. Thats how I sectioned off my woodshop area too. Along with dust collection.
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Old 03-01-2012, 03:26 AM   #4394
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Old 03-01-2012, 04:54 AM   #4395
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Thank you for all the suggestions.

I agree, I think the lift will be positioned on the right. I can get a tool cart to move tools around.

I would love to put a second garage door in but the way my property is, I don't think it can happen. I need to get a land survey. The left side of the garage might be back into a hillside about 6' deep. A garage door in the back of the shop would be nice also but the hill drops off back there.

I may put the garage in a different location on my property that will allow access from all sides, the down side is that it would be further from the house and getting power and water up there would be more work. As well as being further from the house would make me less motivated to trek up there to get work done.

As for a wood shop, I plan on using curtains like you find in a ER to keep the dust contained. I want to also make a wash bay just inside the garage door using a curtain also.
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