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Old 03-11-2015, 04:51 PM   #1
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Beginning July 1st Oregon will test a 1.5-cent-per-mile tax

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...ased-road-tax/

Beginning July 1st, the state will provide an OBD mileage-tracking device to up to 5,000 volunteers. The test subjects will still pay Oregon's current fuel tax at the pump—$0.30 per gallon, plus a local tax of up to 5 cents in some cities—but at the end of each month the state DOT will analyze the vehicle data, and either rebate or charge the drivers the difference between the fuel tax they paid and the proposed 1.5 cent-per-mile levy.
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:06 PM   #2
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:11 PM   #3
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Why in the world would you volunteer to allow your driving habits to be monitored by the government? Simple math on how many miles you drive and gallons used produces the same result don't it? It will never-like a sales tax-fly here.
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:16 PM   #4
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So, if you assume the total gas tax is 35 cents per gallon and the mileage tax is 1.5 cents per mile, you'd break even if you averaged 23 - 24 mpg. If I was driving a gas hog as a daily driver I'd be trying to get in the test group.

This will piss off the hybrid and EV owners, but they do just as much road damage as any other passenger car and they're ducking the fuel tax.
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:16 PM   #5
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Think of it as a Discover Tax
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:24 PM   #6
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Think of it as a Discover Tax
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:27 PM   #7
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This is a BAD idea, no matter what.
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:41 PM   #8
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Old 03-11-2015, 08:13 PM   #9
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Every so often I hear this idea floated. Somehow they would track your mileage. There are a few ways to do this (speaking as a WA resident):

GPS module. Well, no way would I let anyone install a GPS module on one of my cars. Also, I would exercise my right to disable it on a newer car.

Annual Odometer reporting at an inspection facility. What a PITA that would be, 2 of the cars I own I can actually disable the odometer (disconnect speed sensor) but my newer truck the odo can't be disabled.

OBD port scanning, either real time or at the above odometer reporting. 1 of my cars is an OBD-0 car, it is impossible to get miles from it's ECU.

So, with the above scenarios, that would leave my driving my OBD-0 car almost exclusively and leaving my newer truck parked most of the time. Fine by me. And my wife's car can be tampered with also.

So, how exactly could the gov't enforce those scenarios? You CAN'T mandate crap for an old OBD-0, OBD-1 or carb vehicle, and people could find ways around per-mile-tax if they have the older vehicles.

Another reason to avoid newer "connected" vehicles.

How else can they enforce tax by mile on an older vehicle?
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Old 03-11-2015, 08:49 PM   #10
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Old 03-11-2015, 09:05 PM   #11
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Old 03-11-2015, 09:10 PM   #12
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annual mileage on my ratty old Royota shop truck is probably under 100 miles,,it gets old style crappy gas mileage,,as opposed to ,,
any bike I ride,
with thousands of miles traveled, but great gas mileage.
If I had to pay a mileage tax,,please tax the shop truck,
but if I had to pay a MPG tax,,then tax me on the smallest bike.
there is no 'one size fits all' for gas taxing scenarios,,they wanted us to drive vehicles that use less fuel,,now they whine about lost revenues due to reduced sales. Daylight savings time should have a reduced tax rate for its duration,,,,make it worthwhile to change clocks and lose sleep!
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Old 03-11-2015, 11:20 PM   #13
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Don't forget, they need to charge you this tax in order to break even for all the people they hire, special equipment they need, and building they lease in order to monitor your mileage.
Whatever, they'll try and get it from somewhere
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Old 03-11-2015, 11:36 PM   #14
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Don't forget, they need to charge you this tax in order to break even for all the people they hire, special equipment they need, and building they lease in order to monitor your mileage.
Whatever, they'll try and get it from somewhere
Break even,...
until they figger out how much health insurance and 401k's cost them.
Then they'll have to have a new tax by the time that's discovered.
But they'll have to hire some more bean counters to discover that.
They'll need insurance too
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Old 03-12-2015, 09:53 AM   #15
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So, if you assume the total gas tax is 35 cents per gallon and the mileage tax is 1.5 cents per mile, you'd break even if you averaged 23 - 24 mpg. If I was driving a gas hog as a daily driver I'd be trying to get in the test group.

This will piss off the hybrid and EV owners, but they do just as much road damage as any other passenger car and they're ducking the fuel tax.
It's higher than 35 cents. Total gas tax in Oregon is 49.5 cents per gallon, including 18.4 cent federal tax.

In the end, anything less than 37 mpg will actually save more. And this would spread the financial burden of infrastructure maintenance more fairly.
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