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Old 10-11-2013, 10:07 AM   #1
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Safari Tank Rubbing Radiator, Need A Fix

So I know we are not the first, our tank has rubbed a bit of metal off the side of the radiator tank and I want to do something about it before it casues a leak.

So what have you other SE owners with a done to stop the rubbing and was it sucessful ¨

Has anyone applied silver insultion sheet or tape under their tank to reflect heat

Last question, can a thicker layer be added to the radiator as a rub bar if you like and does the radiator need to be removed, anyone tried this
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Old 10-11-2013, 10:11 AM   #2
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Hello Andi.

Can we see a picture of where the problem is?

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Old 10-11-2013, 10:20 AM   #3
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Heya Q

I havent got pics but it is up both sides of the side tanks on the radiator and more biased to the back of each side if you like

I have spaced the bottom brackets our in an attempt to help it but with the heat etc it bows inwards toward the radiator and rubs
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Old 10-11-2013, 10:51 AM   #4
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Is it the flat stainless steel brace or round alloy one ?
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Old 10-11-2013, 11:21 AM   #5
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It WILL rub a hole through your radiator DAMHIK.

I would try pulling the lobes out and bending your bracket to make sure it holds the lobes outward. Everytime you lay the bike down you will need to make sure you pull the lobes out again.

As an extra measure I would cut up an old tire tube and afix some rubber b/w the tank and the radiator.
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:10 PM   #6
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If you can´t space it outwards, then try put some 4mm UHD between.

Or go all the way and weld it.
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:37 PM   #7
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The reflective heat tape eventually peels off. Mine is hanging loose.

+1 on the tube
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:38 PM   #8
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Thanks all, will probably get an extra piece braized or soldered on the outside as a rub bar, Hodgo we have the round tube, Mark sounds like yours did it then.

So reflective tape suffers the same fate as anythig else you try and stick to the tank, wont worry trying to get that then.

So even spacing the bottom bracket out about 5 or 6 mm to a relaxed position the buldge still gets the tank when hot

Thanks gents, when we get wifi I will upload the pics, at an internet cafe in Mongui cos NO wifi in town ...and NO coffee shop
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Old 10-20-2013, 06:13 PM   #9
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Hello Andi.

Can we see a picture of where the problem is?

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Yes you can!!

So we ended up fixing double side tape to the radiator side tanks, folded a 2.5 mm sacrificial alloy angle and stuck one to each side, we then stuck some rubberfoamkindashit adhesive backed to the outside to rub the tank, not sure how that will last but will know soon enough.

Very happy now as the radiator is better protected and NOT wearing out over every bump

Ok, these are the rub marks, lefty



RHS



Alloy angle Lefty





RHS



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Old 10-20-2013, 09:03 PM   #10
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Toss the old round bracket & get the upgraded flat piece one.
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A couple of things to consider:

1) The guard may accentuate the wear to the radiator due to movement of the guard induced by the tanks flexing, and or the tank will rub itself a whole against that stiff alloy? Its pretty tight in that area already.

2) The contact surfaces ( tank, radiator, guard, both sides) probably need a cushioning membrane. The tube rubber seems a good idea.

What is keeping that guard affixed to the radiator? Seems to me that it would be difficult to keep the guard from movement, meaning more abrasive nasty wounds.

Good luck, and good on ya for trying for a fix. I have the same issue. Have not yet attempted a fix, but need to soon. No science backing up my observations, maybe I am off the mark.

Anyhow,Let us know how things procede.

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Toss the old round bracket & get the upgraded flat piece one.
Got any pics?, would be easier to get one made than try and wait
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A couple of things to consider:

1) The guard may accentuate the wear to the radiator due to movement of the guard induced by the tanks flexing, and or the tank will rub itself a whole against that stiff alloy? Its pretty tight in that area already.

2) The contact surfaces ( tank, radiator, guard, both sides) probably need a cushioning membrane. The tube rubber seems a good idea.

What is keeping that guard affixed to the radiator? Seems to me that it would be difficult to keep the guard from movement, meaning more abrasive nasty wounds.

Good luck, and good on ya for trying for a fix. I have the same issue. Have not yet attempted a fix, but need to soon. No science backing up my observations, maybe I am off the mark.

Anyhow,Let us know how things procede.
We have spaced the tank out slightly so the bit that bows doesn't touch as hard anyway, I would rather it wear my sacrificial wear strips than the radiator, fuel tank has suffered no wer whatsoever.

We cushioned the outside of the angle with the rubber stuff, see how that stands up.

The angles are stuck with double sided tape so it will allow some movement while hopefully holding it in place.

Will get some closeups of tank and angles for interest later on today.
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This is what will happen to the old brace eventually.

Couldnt fint any pictures on the net of the upgraded bracket so took one for you.
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Old 10-21-2013, 01:31 PM   #15
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Thanks Hodgo, did you make the bracket or is that an upgrade bracket from Safari?

Ours is OK at this point but if it shits itself we will get something made here.
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