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Old 05-16-2014, 12:36 AM   #1
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Electric is getting more interesting

Not quite an adventure bike unless you count commuting - but still an interesting technology getting closer to affordable.




Gets a pretty good write up here:

http://www.gizmag.com/zero-sr-2014-e...afacb-90357450
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Old 05-16-2014, 12:59 AM   #2
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They are getting close - almost there.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:34 AM   #3
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Adding a new meaning to ' silent but deadly'
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:43 AM   #4
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They will be a good thing in the very near future. Hybrid technology is progressing in leaps n bounds and it may be the answer to fuel range
I'd like a 2WD elec hub motor bike with a compact diesel gen.
If they can progress the bikes as fast as mobile phones I should be riding one in a few years!!!
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:49 AM   #5
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I reckon they're great!
1. Cos you can ride without pissing off the neighbours, and
2. Cos the more electric vehicles there are, the more fossil fuel that will be left for me and my toys........
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Old 05-16-2014, 03:05 AM   #6
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I reckon they're great!
1. Cos you can ride without pissing off the neighbours, and
2. Cos the more electric vehicles there are, the more fossil fuel that will be left for me and my toys........
& the more closed public land we could sneak on to.................
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Old 05-16-2014, 03:13 AM   #7
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& the more closed public land we could sneak on to.................
This IS (already) going to be one of the big clusterfucks...

I have witnessed (even with the very few versions already available on the market) a tendency for the percieved "stealth" capability of these electric offroad moto's being used in places of marginal/questionable access. often under the guise of "mountainbikes" (given that they are silent and somewhat more lithe/spartan in appearance than the normal enduro/offroad machine. I have personally seen tracks/trails (where bicycle traffic/mtb is permitted... but motorcycles not) cut and expanded (in places like municipal land, national park etc). and the shit is only about to hit the fan...

When these things become common place, I predict a lot of folk who will find the "stealth capacity" an intriguing temptation.
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When these things become common place, I predict a lot of folk who will find the "stealth capacity" an intriguing temptation.
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Old 05-16-2014, 03:23 AM   #9
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Give me an electric bike that will sit on the ton for two hours straight, lights and all, handle deecently, and then recharge in ten minutes or less and I'll sell a bollock to buy in. Till then, they're novelty value ... but I'm paying attention.
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When these things become common place, I predict a lot of folk who will find the "stealth capacity" an intriguing temptation.
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Give me an electric bike that will sit on the ton for two hours straight, lights and all, handle deecently, and then recharge in ten minutes or less and I'll sell a bollock to buy in. Till then, they're novelty value ... but I'm paying attention.
I dont think the 2hrs at the ton thing is far away. Its the recharge that is going to be a problem. Some people think electric petrol stations might be the go.
http://www.greenoptimistic.com/2014/...-cell-battery/

The green optimist has heaps of info on eletric transportation some neat stuff. Sort of the techno green. Theres these local kids who do laps of the hood all stealth like late at night on their electric pushies really cool shit.
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Old 05-16-2014, 04:07 AM   #12
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When these things become common place, I predict a lot of folk who will find the "stealth capacity" an intriguing temptation.






Ohh Yeah!!!







At the moment it's a pretty fine line being drawn... in the definition of what is MTB and what is el-moto... with regards as to where you can (or should) use one...

apparently (I've heard that in some circles) these are deemed kosher;

http://www.stealthelectricbikesusa.com/


as they have "pedals"...*

yet these are "not" kosher *

https://www.faster-faster.com/bikes.html


But the latter get used in some "marginal" areas in any case due to the one cool fact that they are (virtually) silent... (okay, on the pedal equipped ones, the rider puffs and pant's a bit more maybe ). A big plus about the "stealth" factor that they have no real noise impact, which means they are ideal to access places where otherwise the riders would be quickly detected due to engine noise.

But it raises the question; are nature reserves and national parks fair game now, even if the noise emissions = zero...? Apparently the greenies and their political clout have another viewpoint on the matter.

** By this I am referring to the "type" of bikes... Hybrid bicycles vs. electric offroad motorcycles... Not referring to the manufacturers or their products themselves - as "kosher/non-kosher"... Just using these two websites (the first two hits I googled on the respective type of vehicle) as an example of the technology available on sale today.
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Old 05-16-2014, 04:11 AM   #13
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Out west as you get further away from the power stations it will become worth installing solar arrays with storage to charge your EV (charge batteries during the day, charge car over night from batteries) or something of that nature.

Being able to fast charge the system ... that's the kicker. It's all very well to travel for hours, but if you need to camp for a day to charge after every two hours travel time ... not interested. I'd rather run on bio-fuel of some sort.
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Old 05-16-2014, 04:12 AM   #14
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recharge in ten minutes or less

Interesting things are happening there too - though this is a bit old now

http://arstechnica.com/science/2011/...n-two-minutes/

The trick will be getting it through the supply fast enough at some point. Maybe the petrol pump will become a giant capacitor at some point - you dont want a static discharge in that servo
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Old 05-16-2014, 04:19 AM   #15
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And another

http://www.sci-tech-today.com/story....d=032003C6K9SW



Somebody must surely bring this so market at some point?

Even my Radio Control Li-Po's can be charged pretty hard these days - 5C is not uncommon though difficult to generate
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