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Old 11-06-2012, 04:46 AM   #16381
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Exactly my point-you work on cars for a living, I don't. Most definitely correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't it make it so us shade tree wrenchers who are not mechanics by trade, have to take our bikes to the dealer because they would be way more complicated? Or would it be something that you just learn to work on?
Its kinda like a mule. There is a point when a sheep hearder either takes it to a witch doctor or shoots it.

Same with efi or carbs or women.
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Old 11-06-2012, 06:34 AM   #16382
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Its kinda like a mule. There is a point when a sheep hearder either takes it to a witch doctor or shoots it.

Same with efi or carbs or women.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:35 PM   #16383
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Most definitely correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't it make it so us shade tree wrenchers who are not mechanics by trade, have to take our bikes to the dealer because they would be way more complicated?
FI is probably less complicated then a carburetor. Once you wrap your head around it, it's easy to work on. You just use different tools.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:48 PM   #16384
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EFI and 6th gear, definately a wish list item, but Suzuki isn't good at listening
Do that, and I would be first on the list for a new one. Don't do that, and I won't buy a new Suzuki, that simple!
Even my WeeStrom has too closely spaced gears!
Hey Suzuki, fire ALL the engineers that don't have several years riding and mechanicing under thier belt, and same for the bean counters, start a forum to find out what your customers acutally want, and are willing to pay for, and maybe the rest of the company can avoid bankruptcy. Are you listening???????????
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:50 PM   #16385
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Exactly my point-you work on cars for a living, I don't. Most definitely correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't it make it so us shade tree wrenchers who are not mechanics by trade, have to take our bikes to the dealer because they would be way more complicated? Or would it be something that you just learn to work on?
You learn to work on it. Basically think of it like this... instead of tearing your bike apart several times to get your jetting right every time you add a mod..... you would search the net for a file ( a tune) that someone shared of the tune from their bike that has the same mods as yours. You download the file...connect your computer to your bike and load the file into your pcm and you'd be done. You might have to change the pcm so its able to be flashed or solder in a piggy back system but that's easy. And of course if you really wanted to fine tune the bike you could modify another persons tune or just go to the Dyno and tune it yourself.

The best part of fuel injection is that their really isn't many driveability issues. Press the button in the morning and you're off. No worrying if its too cold, or if you need to choke it or if it has a flat spot when cold etc. It really is the way to go.

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Old 11-06-2012, 03:26 PM   #16386
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You learn to work on it. Basically think of it like this... instead of tearing your bike apart several times to get your jetting right every time you add a mod..... you would search the net for a file ( a tune) that someone shared of the tune from their bike that has the same mods as yours. You download the file...connect your computer to your bike and load the file into your pcm and you'd be done. You might have to change the pcm so its able to be flashed or solder in a piggy back system but that's easy. And of course if you really wanted to fine tune the bike you could modify another persons tune or just go to the Dyno and tune it yourself.

The best part of fuel injection is that their really isn't many driveability issues. Press the button in the morning and you're off. No worrying if its too cold, or if you need to choke it or if it has a flat spot when cold etc. It really is the way to go.

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Well, the thought of FI and a 6th gear is nice! I guess you are right dualsportdad-at one point i knew nothing....it's just something to learn to improve our bikes and riding pleasure!!!!
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:26 PM   #16387
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I was an FI skeptic until I got my Montesa 4rt with Honda-HRC's battery-less FI. Once I got it sorted, it has been seamless. It starts and runs regardless of elevation and temperature. It also fuels beautifully across the load range; it has kept ticking in situations where I know I would have stalled a carb bike. I would now love FI for my DRZ (and 50lbs lighter, and 6 speed ;).



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Old 11-06-2012, 03:29 PM   #16388
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FCR carb vent routing?

I installed an FCR in my S this summer, and routed the vents under the airbox and down out just ahead of the swingarm. I discovered yesterday that this sucks in knee deep water. Where do you guys run your vents so as to not stall in water?
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:30 PM   #16389
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Until Suzuki's financial situation stabilizes (which could take a couple years or more), I doubt we're going to see much R&D money being directed at FI and new transmissions for the DRZ.

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Old 11-06-2012, 03:52 PM   #16390
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I suppose the DRZ could slightly better, but I love it for what it is, fast, fun and light (compared to my old DR650).
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:53 PM   #16391
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Well, the thought of FI and a 6th gear is nice! I guess you are right dualsportdad-at one point i knew nothing....it's just something to learn to improve our bikes and riding pleasure!!!!
Here's a quick video I found that walks through the basics. He goes a bit more into detail about other things you can do with tuning software but it clearly shows how easy it is to connect the bike to the computer, load a tune that he downloaded, then modify it to his liking and then flash the tune to the pcm.

Much easier and less messy than messing with carbs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hE2...e_gdata_player

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Old 11-06-2012, 05:42 PM   #16392
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Has anybody ever put a MicroSquirt on a DRZ?
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:53 PM   #16393
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Has anybody ever put a MicroSquirt on a DRZ?
I'm not sure if anyone else has but I've thought about it. Is there a intake manifold, injector, rail etc that can mounted to the DRZ head? I'm going to assume not cause if there was adding a micro squirt should be straight forward.

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Old 11-06-2012, 07:05 PM   #16394
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Yes.



LT-Z400 (DR-Z motor with reverse gear and injection) parts bin for the easiest fit... Throttle body, external pump, flywheel...

My 470 used RM, LT-Z and LT-R parts with some modifications.
That's pretty cool. The main thing that ever kept me from trying to inject my bike was fitting the parts.... I don't like down time. What was needed to fit the ltz parts?

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Old 11-06-2012, 07:37 PM   #16395
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RM250 wheel on a DRZ400S which spacers?

Hello all, I recently scored a rim from a RM250 to use on my 2008 DRZ-S. The PO told me that I could use it with the DRZ spacers. Have any of you guys done this and do you know the proper way to set it up. I realize the Speedo wont function with the RM rim........Thanks...........John
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