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Old 02-07-2013, 09:36 AM   #17311
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Unless, that is, you have an 'E' with the FCR, big cams, high compression and the snorkel removed. Then rejet said FCR carb. The low-end torque is *very* noticeable. The throttle response, too. Inmate SSgB has an '01 E with stock carb & pipe but open airbox. I have an '05 E with full Yosh exhaust and fat jets. Mine will leave his in the dust every time! Same gearing on the two - 14 & 47.

Mine will 'tractor' along on the single track without slipping the clutch quite nicely. He's riding the clutch and keeping the RPMs up to pull his along.

The E already has a better pipe than the S (I think; could be mistaken), so the improvement will be more significant, provided you can get air and fuel into the cylinder to complement the outflow.

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Something is wrong with his jetting, brakes, or technique. S, SM, E will all walk along nice and slow with 14/47 (assuming 18/21" wheels on them) gearing just fine. Fix his jetting, no need in making miraculous claims about E's.


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There might be some jetting that is needed as it does not start all that easily and likes the choke until it is good and warm. However, the brakes work just fine, and my technique is decent.

Jon's claims are true, his 05 with a full yosh system will walk away from mine on a drag race. It will also tractor along much better than mine will. My 01 is not slow or underpowered by any means, but his, with a pipe, does in fact have a lot more "go" in it and that "go" wants to get out faster.

Granted this is all gauged by the calibrated seat of my pants, so take it for what it is worth. He would win a drag race hands down every time. Wheel size and gearing is the same on the both of them.

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Old 02-07-2013, 09:37 AM   #17312
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Sounds pretty damn good to me, seems like the FCR is the mod to do to these bikes.....

If i only had a extra $500 bucks laying aorund, lol


Long story short, went off roading, something broke, i go to fix it, and the tool bag zipper broke off, the bag is garbage,

Replaced it with a Tusk rear fender bag ($20 dollars shipped, also had this exact bag on my previous bike, good shit) same exact size as the stocker, but stronger all around, mounted it without using the stock white plastic tool holder thingie, and now can fit almost double the stuff in there, without the white plastic taking up needed space.



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Old 02-07-2013, 10:00 AM   #17313
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Since it seems relevant once upon a time I heard from a guy (yup) that the slide in a vacuum carb could jostle a bit in washboard or rough track and make inconsistent fuel delivery even with steady throttle application just from the mechanics of the carb. A pumper carb, by design, doesn't have this problem making for quicker and more consistent throttle.

True? Outlandish hootenanny? Often unspoken benefit of pumper vs vacuum carb?

When I was rebuilding my S I got a great deal on a pumper carb and it made a complete difference from the jetted 3x3 I had before.
I ride my bike weekly down a wash board dirty road with pot holes. It does the same with the bsr as it did with the fcr.

Think of it like this: the fcr has a direct link from your hand to the slide, the bsr does not. ..just to a butterfly. If your hitting bumps I could understand how the vacuum slide might get jostled around a bit but if you're hitting bumps I'm sure your hand isn't staying still either so that direct link to the slide on the fcr would be moving around as well.

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Old 02-07-2013, 10:41 AM   #17314
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Something is wrong with his jetting, brakes, or technique. S, SM, E will all walk along nice and slow with 14/47 (assuming 18/21" wheels on them) gearing just fine. Fix his jetting, no need in making miraculous claims about E's.
I made no such "miraculous" claims; just a statement of fact.

A decent aftermarket exhaust system - not just a muffler or just the header, etc - *will* make a noticeable difference. Measurable, even. I suspect the difference is noticeable on the S but you claimed all it does is make noise (indirectly). Swap the exhaust system, open the airbox, increase the jetting; voila! A measurable, noticeable, significant gain in performance. With the bigger cams, higher compression and pumper carb on the E, the open pipe has more effect than on the S, which can't breathe as well or deliver fuel as well.

SSgB's E used to be mine. It runs well, though is a bit lean after opening the airbox (de-snorkled). Bumping the jet a size or three would cure that. His still won't stay with mine, either poking along on the single track or drag-racing. Mine simply has better performance, fast or slow. It's not a miraculous claim; it's a fact.

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Old 02-07-2013, 08:29 PM   #17315
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:23 PM   #17316
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Damn you, your enticing terrain, your lack of government restrictions, and apparent over-abundance of sunshine.

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Old 02-07-2013, 09:47 PM   #17317
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Thanks for the report ADVGD! Looks incredible!!
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:14 AM   #17318
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Great pics advgod! Looked like an awesome vacation.

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Old 02-08-2013, 05:32 AM   #17319
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I ride my bike weekly down a wash board dirty road with pot holes. It does the same with the bsr as it did with the fcr.

Think of it like this: the fcr has a direct link from your hand to the slide, the bsr does not. ..just to a butterfly. If your hitting bumps I could understand how the vacuum slide might get jostled around a bit but if you're hitting bumps I'm sure your hand isn't staying still either so that direct link to the slide on the fcr would be moving around as well.

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Without seeming rude. Have you removed the kickstand safety? Washboards, small whoops it will bounce around killing the engine with small rapid bumps maybe that is the issue especially if the kickstand return spring is weak.
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:41 AM   #17320
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:42 AM   #17321
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It does not.

Oh and for the record mine doesn't miss a beat on dirt roads etc, bsr or fcr unless I get knocked around pretty bad and then it is just my hand making it do that.

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Old 02-08-2013, 08:50 AM   #17322
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:27 AM   #17323
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It's not a miraculous claim; it's a fact.
Indeed. See http://www.moto-lab.com/gallery/view?itemid=351.

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Old 02-08-2013, 09:51 AM   #17324
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Old 02-08-2013, 12:59 PM   #17325
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