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Old 03-08-2008, 07:32 AM   #691
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RE 3x3 and jets

I have 2 drz's equipped with different jet kits. The James Dean kit appears to be way more complete. I can't tell whether it pulls harder than the other bacause it has full exhaust as well.

The work was easy and worth every bit of effort.

I would still like to swap to an FCR but will wait until I have only 1 drz.

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Old 03-08-2008, 08:17 AM   #692
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Doing the 3X3 & rejetting wont give you "pull your arms outta their sockets" performance gains. It will give it a little more pep. It may also increase your throttle response a little bit. When I did it, I didn't take a MPG hit. My bike consistantly got 50-52 MPG when I had the stock carb, even after adding HotCams & the "E" base gasket. After I installed the FCR, the MPG did drop, but only slightly, to around 48-50 MPG.

The thing about the 3X3 is, it's free & makes a little bit of a difference. But if you're happy with the way the bike is stock, leave it alone. Most of the mods I've done for performance increase have worked, but more so in small increases rather than mind blowing "God I wished I would've done that earlier" increases.
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Old 03-10-2008, 07:18 AM   #693
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Thanks guys, there doesn't really seem to be a down side. For the minimal cost and effort involved it sounds like a good rainy day project.

I'm still a little bitter having spent countless hours sorting out the jetting on my CBX..... 6 carbs + drop the engine to access the carbs for every adjustment. The up side is that the experience drove me back to singles and twins.
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Old 03-10-2008, 07:22 AM   #694
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the only "down" side to the 3x3 is more intake noise.if you run a aftermarket pipe or wear earplugs,it's not an issue.
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Old 03-10-2008, 12:22 PM   #695
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Newbie some questions

HI all from the snowy north.
new to dirt / offroad drz400s .

No riding this week, 30cm of snow.

I have a few questions and could use some help, thank you to all of you in advance.
I tried to download the repair manual for the drz but got stopped at engine and electrical. does anybody have the rest of the pdf's ?

I got some real great information from this site thanks to all of you.

I decided to ride one complete season before doing any performance modifications, including the 3x3.
I will concentrate on protection and convenience mods first.

Then after the season if I am unhappy with the performance I will see.

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Old 03-10-2008, 09:37 PM   #696
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HI all from the snowy north.
new to dirt / offroad drz400s .

No riding this week, 30cm of snow.

I have a few questions and could use some help, thank you to all of you in advance.
I tried to download the repair manual for the drz but got stopped at engine and electrical. does anybody have the rest of the pdf's ?

I got some real great information from this site thanks to all of you.

I decided to ride one complete season before doing any performance modifications, including the 3x3.
I will concentrate on protection and convenience mods first.

Then after the season if I am unhappy with the performance I will see.

A+
That sounds like a wise plan. Sometimes one can get all hung up on the "latest and greatest" but it ends up being money wasted. One thing I would advise doing is getting the suspension adjusted to fit your riding. I'm talking about setting the sag and rebound/compression clickers. Having the suspensions set properly will allow you to use the power the bike already has the most effectively. I'm still playing with mine so I'm not much help on actual settings. PM Paochow, he knows tons about the s model.
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Old 03-10-2008, 09:44 PM   #697
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Stuart Steel strikes again!
Made a rear fender rack for my KLX 400 this weekend. It won't win any appearance awards, but it's strong and durable and most importantly, CHEAP!




I share these so if any of you handy types with welder, a small sledgehammer and a vise want one, you can build one. Thanks for watching Stuart Steel.
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Old 03-13-2008, 08:03 AM   #698
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Hey Taco,

That is one utilitarian rack. How are you going to keep rust from forming? A current building trend in Bozeman is putting corrugated metal panels on new houses and letting them rust to a nice (?) natural red-brown color, so I guess a rusty rack would fit right in.

I downloaded the DRZ manual OK, but for shop work I use the Clymer manual for the DRZ and find it to be very good. I bought it online from The Motor Bookstore for $26 including shipping.
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Old 03-13-2008, 08:33 AM   #699
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Eh? wow, nice work

but I gotta say I seriously doubt you will be happy with it. First it will eat a hole in whatever you put on it. (things wiggle) Second if you put anything substantial on it its going to sag like Grandmas tits. (rebar is very soft and your mounting points are very close together) I hate to be the doomsayer but I bet you take it off after a few rides. Otherwise it looks great Kudos on your effort and your welding.
















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Old 03-13-2008, 08:56 AM   #700
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Taco, rack looks cool. Some supports under the center braces and down to the fender holes would keep it from sagging. Nice work.
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:17 AM   #701
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Cool Rack-love the idea!

I know that having a liberal arts and business degree curtails my ability to comment on DIY racks ... but isn't the obvious attachment point aft of the seat bolts - the tool bag-holder bolts? If my memory serves, that's how Suzuki OEM cargo rack attaches.

If you did that, the whole "under-the-fender" deal is superfluous. Furthermore, that would make this system workable with the Dirt BagZ racks that many of us have on these bikes.

Just a thought from the peanut gallery ... good luck!

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Old 03-13-2008, 03:55 PM   #702
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3x3 mod pics

I am about to do the 3x3 mod to my airbox, but really want to see some pics before I start hacking!
Please post up some pics and help out a noob!
Thanks fellow inmates!
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Old 03-13-2008, 05:33 PM   #703
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I am about to do the 3x3 mod to my airbox, but really want to see some pics before I start hacking!
Please post up some pics and help out a noob!
Thanks fellow inmates!
Lots of good info & pics here:


http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/sho...ght=master+3x3
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Old 03-14-2008, 01:58 AM   #704
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Thanks Rick. Looking there next. I tried a search, but it didn't like me!
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Old 03-14-2008, 06:33 AM   #705
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... but isn't the obvious attachment point aft of the seat bolts - the tool bag-holder bolts? If my memory serves, that's how Suzuki OEM cargo rack attaches.



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Looks to me like he has a R model(E). Subframe doesn't extend past the seat bolts.
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