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Old 07-21-2011, 11:31 AM   #9736
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How important are the chain rollers? The heat has been wreaking havok on my chain and it went from loose to crazy tight baking in a parking lot. Got rolling and the lower one exploded. Tied up the vent hoses and the chain loosened up. Can I ride as is or will the chain snap and rip my leg open? The chain isn't rubbing against anything as is.
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:20 PM   #9737
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[QUOTE=luni;16446854]How important are the chain rollers? The heat has been wreaking havok on my chain and it went from loose to crazy tight baking in a parking lot. Got rolling and the lower one exploded. Tied up the vent hoses and the chain loosened up. Can I ride as is or will the chain snap and rip my leg open? The chain isn't rubbing against anything

If your chain is that tight to begin with its misadjusted, or something is loose like a swingarm bearing, or wheel bearing or axle nut.
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Old 07-21-2011, 07:30 PM   #9738
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Thought I should post a picture of my bike. Bought it about a month ago. New to riding and this forum, so advice\suggestions welcome.

The bike is in immaculate condition considering the guy I bought it from never took it on trails. It's set up for cruising, so I'm in the process of doing some mods.

I have knobbies (dunlop 606's), hand guards, and chain on order. I replaced the handlebars with protapers and one inch risers. Gonna get a bigger tank, swap out the stock tail lights with some smaller ones, and get a rear rack too. Not all at once of course. I have a little troublemaker on the way, so were limiting the play money. Considering the 3x3 mod and rejet, but not sure I can do it myself?

Still not sure about the suspension either. I'm 220, so definitely heavy for the bike, but it seems like the bike handles me fine. Maybe I just don't have the experience or knowledge to know the difference.

Gear: Yes, definitely took care of this too. Helmet, ballistic jacket, pants, gloves, goggles, and alpinestars tech 3 boots,

All that said, I hit some trails locally when I can. So anyone that can tolerate a super noob that wants to ride hit me up.

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Old 07-21-2011, 07:58 PM   #9739
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Nice ride- looks like you already have the case savers taken care of, and a corbin seat . I love my corbin. good luck with the bike and let us know how you make out modding it
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Old 07-21-2011, 07:59 PM   #9740
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Master cylinder for front brake

Anyone know the diameter of the front master cylinder?
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Old 07-21-2011, 09:45 PM   #9741
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How important are the chain rollers? The heat has been wreaking havok on my chain and it went from loose to crazy tight baking in a parking lot. Got rolling and the lower one exploded. Tied up the vent hoses and the chain loosened up. Can I ride as is or will the chain snap and rip my leg open? The chain isn't rubbing against anything as is.
The heat is wreaking havoc on your chain? Ive never heard of that.
Ive also never heard of the vent hoses causing the chain to loosen up. Possibly talking to a mechanic in person could help.
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Old 07-21-2011, 10:27 PM   #9742
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Yes - sorry - forgot to add that. To drain (both coolant and then again the water), I

1) opened the filler cap
2) removed the water pump drain plug
3) opened the bleed hole
4) disconnected the overflow hose and drained the overflow tank

My thinking is that I haven't let it get warmed up enough ? Friend at work suggested at least 5-10 minutes.

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TT has an excellent write up in the FAQ. There is another bleed hole lower down by the engine where the rad hose connects.
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Old 07-22-2011, 06:24 AM   #9743
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TT has an excellent write up in the FAQ. There is another bleed hole lower down by the engine where the rad hose connects.
Yes, did that - on the side of the water pump cover, correct?

Done.

The weird part is last night, I tried again - this time ran it hot with the rad cap off for about 10 or so minutes - in the hopes that whatever air bubble is in the system gets burped out - and no luck - I'm still "full" of coolant - up to the filler on the rad cap - having only put in about 700mL.

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Old 07-22-2011, 05:03 PM   #9744
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Due to not wanting to tie up the DRZ400 thread with stuff about my bike, I've started a new thread about how I got my bike to this:



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Old 07-22-2011, 06:31 PM   #9745
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If your chain is that tight to begin with its misadjusted, or something is loose like a swingarm bearing, or wheel bearing or axle nut.
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The heat is wreaking havoc on your chain? Ive never heard of that.
Ive also never heard of the vent hoses causing the chain to loosen up. Possibly talking to a mechanic in person could help.
My first post was written by a drunk toddler. Apologies.

I just replaced all the bearings, it's not loose parts. Initially I adjusted my chain on the center stand and found it was way to loose after I rode to work. Did a parking lot adjustment to tighten it up to what felt to be about right, it sat in said parking lot all day in triple digit temps. I got on, rode across a field and the over-tight chain grenaded the lower chain roller when the suspension flexed down. No longer having a roller or bolt to hold tension, the chain loosened up. No longer having a place for the vent hoses to be secured to, I tied them off to the cushion lever with some 550 cord. That got me home.

I found the clip holding my master link together was almost busted in half and deadlined the bike. Picked up a new chain today and put it on and carefully adjusted it to within spec. Shakedown ride didn't have any problems. Given that I'm not retarded enough to overtighten my chain in a parking lot with a wrench (yea, right) I assumed the heat could have affected the "seasoned" chain.

After all that the real question is, how important is that lower chain roller on the DRZ? I've heard of people removing them on the DRs. And at $43 for an OEM replacement I won't miss it.

Thanks for your patience
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Old 07-23-2011, 04:23 AM   #9746
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Rear shock...

Hi guys,

Please help me.. I have my swingarm off and getting ready to take the rear shock out. I have found that the top adjustment clicker on the rear shock is just clicking around and around.. Is this an easy fix or should I get a shock off eBay to replace it as it's just not rebounding.. Please help..

Cheers Shannon drz400 04'
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:19 AM   #9747
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My first post was written by a drunk toddler. Apologies.

I just replaced all the bearings, it's not loose parts. Initially I adjusted my chain on the center stand and found it was way to loose after I rode to work. Did a parking lot adjustment to tighten it up to what felt to be about right, it sat in said parking lot all day in triple digit temps. I got on, rode across a field and the over-tight chain grenaded the lower chain roller when the suspension flexed down. No longer having a roller or bolt to hold tension, the chain loosened up. No longer having a place for the vent hoses to be secured to, I tied them off to the cushion lever with some 550 cord. That got me home.

I found the clip holding my master link together was almost busted in half and deadlined the bike. Picked up a new chain today and put it on and carefully adjusted it to within spec. Shakedown ride didn't have any problems. Given that I'm not retarded enough to overtighten my chain in a parking lot with a wrench (yea, right) I assumed the heat could have affected the "seasoned" chain.

After all that the real question is, how important is that lower chain roller on the DRZ? I've heard of people removing them on the DRs. And at $43 for an OEM replacement I won't miss it.

Thanks for your patience
Aftermarket chain rollers are around 14bux and can be bought in colors to brighten the bike. Buy one of those, you need it in place or chain tension changes to much during suspension cycling.
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:30 AM   #9748
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Hi guys,

Please help me.. I have my swingarm off and getting ready to take the rear shock out. I have found that the top adjustment clicker on the rear shock is just clicking around and around.. Is this an easy fix or should I get a shock off eBay to replace it as it's just not rebounding.. Please help..

Cheers Shannon drz400 04'
My preference is snag a new stock shock from ebay that been taken from a clean bike. However you could just send that shock into a suspension specialist and have them rework that one. Problem with that is the suspension guys are rebuilding a worn out shock with potential shorter seal life due to a worn out bore and rod. Ultimately I usually buy a new takeoff unit and then send it in for revalve and respring to my specs. I have had best luck with this.

Chances are if you send in the old one for an overhaul and all of the worn pieces are replaced the cost will be the same as sending them a new shock anyway. If you are under 190 lbs a new spring for your weight on a new takeoff shock will not require a revalve anyway.
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Old 07-23-2011, 07:29 PM   #9749
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So just took my first dirt ride on the DRZ, compared to my KLR it was like a quarter horse vs a Really old and FAT elephant............ what a BLAST! tires are sweet too, d606 rear and a d952 front, pretty good on the street too!

Need to adjust a few things, bars are too low and back.......what model or style pro taper or renthals do you guys recommend to bring them up about an inch or so and forward if possible? without having to put extenders.? i could live with them if they were higher but not moved forward........
The pegs are too small,even without the rubber inserts..........
My makeshift rack solution sucked, so a real one is on the way...........
Do i really have to learn military time?...........i guess i can do this last one.......
Love the ride!
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Old 07-23-2011, 07:55 PM   #9750
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Need to adjust a few things, bars are too low and back.......what model or style pro taper or renthals do you guys recommend to bring them up about an inch or so and forward if possible? without having to put extenders.? i could live with them if they were higher but not moved forward........
The pegs are too small,even without the rubber inserts..........
My makeshift rack solution sucked, so a real one is on the way...........
Do i really have to learn military time?...........i guess i can do this last one.......
Love the ride!
Great choice with the D606 rear. I went with the popular MT21/D606 combo and couldn't be happier. It feels like it hooks up better than my CRF280X trail bike.

Renthal Fat Bars, enduro bend http://www.bikebandit.com/renthal-fatbar-handlebars

With the adapter and having them adjusted far forward, I'm 5'11" and they're perfect in attack position.

I recommend the Rugged Rider DRZ rack all day long http://ruggedrider.com/products.html



With the new tires and a SSW FCR carb and suspension tuning I couldn't be happier with my DRZ.
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