the DR200 thread - Page 276

KF7GTH · 08-23-2011, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tbolt

You have a KLR bored out to 685 and you're complaining about drilling out a mixture screw plug?

Mixture screw plug is easy- did that on the Kaw before anything else. Just not sure about the little DR's ins and outs.
Nah, just complaining about another bike to work on. Next thing you know, I'll be getting carb kits, new pipe, and all kinds of crazy shit for this one too.

It's a disease, you know... And it's not even "my" bike

jungleplant · 08-23-2011, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Klay

My wife crunched the numbers recently, and after about 14,000 miles on each bike and ten years time, our two DR200s have paid for themselves in saved fuel and other costs. All further mileage will be pure profit and fun. Great way to look at it.

That why i build racks

Klay · 08-26-2011, 09:43 AM

Got a problem with the battery going dead. The battery is only a year old. With the bike running at idle, the voltage reads 13.9 volts. Rev the motor, and it drops to 13.4 volts. Regulator? Stator?

tbolt · 08-26-2011, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Klay

Got a problem with the battery going dead. The battery is only a year old. With the bike running at idle, the voltage reads 13.9 volts. Rev the motor, and it drops to 13.4 volts. Regulator? Stator?

A place to start looking, per the service manual...

Charging output check
Start with a fully charged battery (important!)
Start engine and run it at 5000 r/min
Measure DC (25V) between + battery terminal and - terminal.
If tester reads under 13V or over 16V, check the AC generator no-load performance and the RR.

Klay · 08-26-2011, 10:07 AM

It checks out okay according to that. Maybe I'll assume the battery is faulty, even though it's young, and start by replacing it.

tbolt · 08-26-2011, 10:11 AM

Shorai Lithium?

Klay · 08-26-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tbolt

Shorai Lithium?

I'll probably just get another sealed lead-acid Yuasa battery, but I've got one of those fancy ones in mind for my DR350. The batteries in both of the 200s right now are generic ones made in China. Same source as the one in my DR650, and that has been lasting very well.

burnt09 · 08-27-2011, 02:11 AM

Can someone confirm that the DR200 has a "Wasted Spark" type of ignition system, firing the plug on the compression and exhaust stroke? According to Wiki, many four stroke singles use this type of ignition, but I can't find any related info specifically for the DR200.

I just installed a TTO tach/hourmeter, and had to set the PPR (pulse per rev) at "1" to get the tach to indicate properly. By the way it works great, and is small enough to stick on the triple clamp. About $30 from Amazon.

Andyinhilo · 08-27-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by burnt09

Can someone confirm that the DR200 has a "Wasted Spark" type of ignition system, firing the plug on the compression and exhaust stroke? According to Wiki, many four stroke singles use this type of ignition, but I can't find any related info specifically for the DR200.

I just installed a TTO tach/hourmeter, and had to set the PPR (pulse per rev) at "1" to get the tach to indicate properly. By the way it works great, and is small enough to stick on the triple clamp. About $30 from Amazon.

Yes, it is a wasted spark ignition.

Trailrider200 · 08-27-2011, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Andyinhilo

Yes, it is a wasted spark ignition.

do u have a reference for that? I have not seen that in the tech manual, usually only a multi-cylinder engine will use a wasted spark system.

thanks

josbourn1 · 08-28-2011, 08:49 AM

looking at a little 200 for myself and i have a question. is it possible/has anyone put in a larger motor?

tbolt · 08-28-2011, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by josbourn1

looking at a little 200 for myself and i have a question. is it possible/has anyone put in a larger motor?

Yes, it's called a DR350.

That would be a lot of work for not a whole lot of gain. You'd be better off with a 350 or DRZ-400.

Andyinhilo · 08-28-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Trailrider200

do u have a reference for that? I have not seen that in the tech manual, usually only a multi-cylinder engine will use a wasted spark system.

thanks

No reference for it, but since the ignition is timed from the crank rather than the cam, like the old Honda singles and twins, it has to fire once each revolution of the crank. So one spark on the compression stroke, and one on the exhaust.

Klay · 08-28-2011, 01:01 PM

Just realized the 200 uses the same battery as the DR350. I popped in a feeble spare I had for the DR350, and the wife's 200 is running again.

Andyinhilo · 08-28-2011, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Klay

Just realized the 200 uses the same battery as the DR350. I popped in a feeble spare I had for the DR350, and the wife's 200 is running again.

Just as I was going to suggest that you swap batteries between the 200s.

08-26-2011, 09:43 AM	#4128
Klay plainsman Joined: Nov 2005 Location: out in the great wide open Oddometer: 89,162	Got a problem with the battery going dead. The battery is only a year old. With the bike running at idle, the voltage reads 13.9 volts. Rev the motor, and it drops to 13.4 volts. Regulator? Stator? __________________ _______

08-26-2011, 10:07 AM	#4130
Klay plainsman Joined: Nov 2005 Location: out in the great wide open Oddometer: 89,162	It checks out okay according to that. Maybe I'll assume the battery is faulty, even though it's young, and start by replacing it. __________________ _______

08-26-2011, 10:11 AM	#4131
tbolt Bypass? What bypass? Joined: Dec 2007 Location: Oregon, Corvallis Oddometer: 436	Shorai Lithium? __________________ bolty.net - a blog about riding motorcycles [SV650] [DR200] The ADV Ride Report De-crufter -- [Firefox] [IE] The ADV Picture Once-inator -- [Firefox]

08-28-2011, 08:49 AM	#4136
josbourn1 Dreaming of a DS Joined: Nov 2008 Location: Syracuse, NY Oddometer: 18	Newb question looking at a little 200 for myself and i have a question. is it possible/has anyone put in a larger motor?

08-28-2011, 01:01 PM	#4139
Klay plainsman Joined: Nov 2005 Location: out in the great wide open Oddometer: 89,162	Just realized the 200 uses the same battery as the DR350. I popped in a feeble spare I had for the DR350, and the wife's 200 is running again. __________________ _______

08-27-2011, 02:11 AM	#4133
burnt09 n00b Joined: Aug 2011 Location: Lakewood, WA Oddometer: 9	Can someone confirm that the DR200 has a "Wasted Spark" type of ignition system, firing the plug on the compression and exhaust stroke? According to Wiki, many four stroke singles use this type of ignition, but I can't find any related info specifically for the DR200. I just installed a TTO tach/hourmeter, and had to set the PPR (pulse per rev) at "1" to get the tach to indicate properly. By the way it works great, and is small enough to stick on the triple clamp. About $30 from Amazon.

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