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Old 10-07-2013, 10:09 AM   #7456
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Monza ~

First off, congratulations on your new bike. Sounds like it's giving you lots of fun.

I can't give any DR200-specific insights, but I've traced plenty of electrical problems in both motorcycles and cars over the years and there's nothing magic about the process. It helps if you have a wiring diagram, but lacking that, you just have to proceed in a logical (if boring) process of elimination.

Start with the bulb and socket itself and see if there is a loose wire, or by wiggling things you can recreate the pulsing. A mulitmeter can help to see where current is flowing and if resistance is within specs. If that checks out, trace the wire back toward the fuses and battery; somewhere along the line you've more than likely got a loose or corroded connection that would create your symptoms perfectly. Make sure all your contacts are tight and clean.

On the bright side, be glad this is the only problem you've got with your new bike.
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Old 10-07-2013, 11:01 AM   #7457
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So from my reading this thread, claims that re-jetting and/or exhaust mods result in a "whole new bike" should be taken as hyperbole and nothing more?
It's a mildly tuned 200cc thumper, so yes IMHO "whole new bike" would be a tad exaggerated. I did the Keintech mods to my wife's DR200 and yes it runs a bit better but then it didn't run terribly to start with, was just real cold blooded. It now starts better cold but other than that it just runs with all it's 14HP fury. Still the ONLY bike that has stayed in our garage for my wife while she has bought and sold 7 other bikes.

She's toured, over 1000kms


gone on week long dual sport rides


Even passed Harley's in the mountains. It's a fun little bike if taken for what it is.

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Old 10-07-2013, 11:54 AM   #7458
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bross ~

Thanks for the tasty pix. Sounds like just the thing I'm looking for to get my feet wet (literally). BTW, don't know if you're a fan, but one hell of game Denver played this week. One of the best I've ever seen.

Monza ~

I looked up the schematic of the speedo assy. Under the cover you got 4 bulbs in there — for the speedo and for the warning lights. First thing I'd do is see if it's just one bulb fluctuating or are they all going sploinky; that would tell you a lot from the get-go. Possibly the harness is shorting out somewhere along the line, or a fuse is dirty or loose, but it could be as simple as a dirty socket.

Time to hit the WD40...

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Old 10-08-2013, 08:12 AM   #7459
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Thanks for all of that. It is only the speedo light. The rest of them work fine. I'm not used to troubleshooting things like this. I guess that I got something to do now this weekend when the GF is at work.
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Old 10-08-2013, 09:39 AM   #7460
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It really helps to approach things like this with a Sherlock Holmes-like attitude rather than as a frustrating puzzle designed by Satan to drive you insane. The knowledge that you can track down and fix things like this when they pop up can be a real confidence booster, especially when you're miles from the nearest repair shop.

Let us know what it turns out to be...
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Old 10-08-2013, 07:29 PM   #7461
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Manuals and service info

I know ithere has to be some info deep within this thread but 500 pages is alot to dig thru for a quick referance.
Is there any online service specs for this bike that you have found helpful?
My wife bought one of these and I get to work on it so having the info handy is always a nice thing.

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Old 10-08-2013, 08:15 PM   #7462
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Electrical power reserve

I want more light on the gravel roads at night. What about one of them xenon lamps? Does that lamp burn too hot? Maybe add led lights, how much extra power is available? I think I seen someone on here that put heated grips and/or vest, that must take up a fair amount of power. I would like to just replace the headlamp over mounting and wiring extra lights, anyone have the xenon lamp? Is it BRIGHT?

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Old 10-08-2013, 09:07 PM   #7463
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I installed an HID kit into mine and the improvement is useful. The sharp white light seems also to attract attention of other drivers as have used them for some time on various bikes and asked a lot of others which they most notice.

Install is simple as it just requires removing the original H4 bulb and installing the HID, followed by the wiring. Plug the three prong plug from the HID harness into the original headlight plug; mount the ballast and relay boxes (both wrap tie under then tank nicely); connect the HID's ground wire to a 6 mm bolt; run the red power wire from the relay back to the battery cable stud on the starter relay and done!

The nice part is that you can wrap up the H4 bulb and pack it if you use the bike for longer rides and have a spare light if needed. I've installed a bunch of HID into all sorts of bikes and all have been improved.

FWIW, have heard mixed results from people who have installed into newer vehicles which have clear plastic headlight lens rather than the older style which has a diffuser pattern in the lens like the original DR headlight.

As for power consumption, this varies a bit depending on the make of HID. I have checked 20 or 30 of them and they usually draw about 4.1 or 4.2 amps during the warm up phase (first couple of minutes) which quickly drops to about 2.1 to 2.2 amps when the HID ballast is fully warmed up.

A standard 65 watt H4 bulb draws about 4-1/2 amps when operating which is about the same as the cold HID. After that the HID uses about 1/2 the power which leaves more left over for charging the battery or running accessories.

I always recommend 3500 Kelvin HID color because it is white. Other colors are less efficient in terms of both light output and ability to see. Another is for the idiots who run the purple 12,000 K range: can't see as well and screaming, "Hey officer! I'm running illegal lights!" ;)

The motorcycle HID kits off Ebay run around $20.00 like this one:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/35-45W-Motorc...item20d7df7bd4

Note that this one is a 6000K which I don't recommend so check the Kelvin color scale. I recommend 3500 -4100 K. There are usually lots on Ebay.

What else have I forgotten...?....

Color, power, mounting???
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Old 10-09-2013, 03:18 PM   #7464
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Has anyone ridden a crf230l? I've owned them in the past and would like to get another for short commute to work. However I've seen some dr200 for sale and wonder how they compare. I really like the smoothness of the shifting/ clutch on the 230L and the snappiness off the bottom though it fades quick. Seems like the dr200 would work well for the job also.
I have ridden both, and there is no appreciable difference between them. The DR has a much larger fuel tank, if that is an issue for you.
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Old 10-09-2013, 07:01 PM   #7465
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Ok so I just had the oil sight glass shoot off into space when my back was turned.
Anyone ever have this happen? Im curious as to wtf!


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Old 10-10-2013, 07:27 AM   #7466
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Joining the dr200 family soon

Hey guys! Was working my way through the thread but that will take years. Anyway just wanna share that I will be getting my first bike in two weeks and its a 2003 dr200 ! I am extremely excited and cannot wait to go on adventures with this bike.

I am currently a 20 year old student at Florida State and I hope to take this little bike on lots of trails and treat it like a real dual sport should be treated. I have several minor questions and would love if you guys would help out!

Firstly, just really curious is there a difference between a dr200 and a dr200SE? I'm assuming one is a special edition? and what does the dr stand for anyway?

Second, what are good , inexpensive dual sport tires for this bike because I think the owner has on street tires.

Lastly, is there anyway to buy all a white or black fuel tank for the 2003 dr200? Mine is blue but I really love how an all white bike looks or at least black and white. Thanks guys!
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Old 10-10-2013, 09:07 AM   #7467
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Some bike porn. The only thing left to add is a rear rack from 'Cycleracks' then she will be complete.
Just wondering, anybody know if a 'Rox Stompa' foot pegs of any other bike will fit on the DR?

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Old 10-10-2013, 10:31 AM   #7468
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Some bike porn. The only thing left to add is a rear rack from 'Cycleracks' then she will be complete.
Just wondering, anybody know if a 'Rox Stompa' foot pegs of any other bike will fit on the DR?

Not sure about the Rox footpegs, but I installed a pair of PivotPegz on my wife's DR200 and she loves them way better than the stock razor blades she had to stand on.



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Old 10-10-2013, 10:49 AM   #7469
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Hey guys! Was working my way through the thread but that will take years. Anyway just wanna share that I will be getting my first bike in two weeks and its a 2003 dr200 ! I am extremely excited and cannot wait to go on adventures with this bike.

I am currently a 20 year old student at Florida State and I hope to take this little bike on lots of trails and treat it like a real dual sport should be treated. I have several minor questions and would love if you guys would help out!

Firstly, just really curious is there a difference between a dr200 and a dr200SE? I'm assuming one is a special edition? and what does the dr stand for anyway?

Second, what are good , inexpensive dual sport tires for this bike because I think the owner has on street tires.

Lastly, is there anyway to buy all a white or black fuel tank for the 2003 dr200? Mine is blue but I really love how an all white bike looks or at least black and white. Thanks guys!

Have fun with your new bike! You can really get any kind of adventure out of it. DR200 and DR200SE are the same thing. The "DR" is an arbitrary designation.


Kenda K270 tires are a really inexpensive 50-50 dual-sport tire, or for a more street-biased dual sport tire, Shinko 705s are really inexpensive.
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Old 10-10-2013, 11:52 AM   #7470
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Have fun with your new bike! You can really get any kind of adventure out of it. DR200 and DR200SE are the same thing. The "DR" is an arbitrary designation.


Kenda K270 tires are a really inexpensive 50-50 dual-sport tire, or for a more street-biased dual sport tire, Shinko 705s are really inexpensive.
Hey thanks! Yeah I plan to ride it until I graduate and can upgrade haha. And as far as trail riding, how does it handle?
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