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Old 01-28-2011, 10:54 AM   #6931
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Given the current exchange rate 1500€ is almost US $2100. DR350SE models go for 2500€.

But you're right. The reason for these high prices is that there are almost no alternatives, and no new ones in particular. I think Suzuki stopped selling the DR350 in Europe in '97, Yamaha stopped selling their XT 350 a few years earlier. It's a shame, really.
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Old 01-28-2011, 11:36 AM   #6932
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What sucks is that the DR350 as a dual-sport seems to fill such a sweet spot with respect to its on and off road ability, small displacement but with decent torque, reliable, and not too heavy. All these positives, yet the DRs haven't been sold in North America since 1999, and there is no direct replacement.

A modern dual-sport with displacement between 250 and the big bikes would be perfect. I want a WR350R, or a wide-ratio, 6-speed tranny in a DRZ400S
The DRZ is the direct replacement.... it does everything the DR350 does or better.... most bikes you buy nowadays are 5-speed unfortunately. I think the 5 speed would be almost as good if it wered gapped for a true dual sport rider, just a slighter shorter 1st and taller 5th.
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Old 01-28-2011, 11:44 AM   #6933
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I'd disagree (I've spent a fair bit of time on the DRZ - fine bike, but doesn't do everything better than the 350).

Loads of bikes now have 6spd gearboxes - all current (non motocross) KTMs, husqvarnas and husabergs for starters.

I'd much rather spin some extra rpm or tote an extra half lbs worth of gear for the 6th than suffer a gappy transmission. There's more to life than overall gear spread - gaps between gears are seriously critical to how well the bike works, especially if you want to cover terrain quickly.

The DRZ400S has less grunt off the bottom, is way, way more fragile, more maintenance intensive (shim under bucket valves), lacks the 6spd as mentioned, is a bit heavier (I think). It is a little faster and better handling when pushed, but not enough that its really competitive against competition oriented machines. It does have huge modding potential, but buying a fast bike to start with is cheaper.

Its not a bad bike, but its not better than the 350 in every way - probably not even better in most ways.
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Old 01-28-2011, 12:55 PM   #6934
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I'd disagree (I've spent a fair bit of time on the DRZ - fine bike, but doesn't do everything better than the 350).

Loads of bikes now have 6spd gearboxes - all current (non motocross) KTMs, husqvarnas and husabergs for starters.

I'd much rather spin some extra rpm or tote an extra half lbs worth of gear for the 6th than suffer a gappy transmission. There's more to life than overall gear spread - gaps between gears are seriously critical to how well the bike works, especially if you want to cover terrain quickly.

The DRZ400S has less grunt off the bottom, is way, way more fragile, more maintenance intensive (shim under bucket valves), lacks the 6spd as mentioned, is a bit heavier (I think). It is a little faster and better handling when pushed, but not enough that its really competitive against competition oriented machines. It does have huge modding potential, but buying a fast bike to start with is cheaper.

Its not a bad bike, but its not better than the 350 in every way - probably not even better in most ways.
IMO, six speed in the 350 is wasted with the current ratios. Gears are far too close together and top gear is not high enough.

OK, I know my 435 probably has more grunt than stock but I find myself tapping it up through the gears almost as fast as I can on the street, yet still hunting for a higher top gear once moving at any decent speed. I could almost live without third and fifth altogether.

Slightly lower 1 and 2, higher 4, 5 where 6 is, and much higher 6 would be about perfect.
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Old 01-28-2011, 12:56 PM   #6935
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Its not a bad bike, but its not better than the 350 in every way - probably not even better in most ways.
I agree 110%, and I've owned both and put a fair number of miles on both (6k on each, roughly).

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Old 01-28-2011, 03:07 PM   #6936
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I agree 110%, and I've owned both and put a fair number of miles on both (6k on each, roughly).

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+2, I agree also. I do like the DRZ's motor, for the most part, but I feel like the DR350 is more versatile overall.
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Old 01-28-2011, 03:46 PM   #6937
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You missed the biggest problem with the Stupid Clarke tank design, which is that at least 1/2 gallon is totally unusable because the fuel valve is not fitted anywhere near the lowest point.
The "Stupid" Clarke tank?

Clarke makes a fantastic tank for the DR. I've owned two of them myself and installed quite a few on other bikes.
I've never had more than a pint of fuel that wasn't accessible.
Only one petcock to deal with, never had a problem with decomp or throttle linkage interference.

Perhaps Greg did get a bad tank which I would have shipped back immediately.

IMS is a great tank as well.... just a little too small for the money.

Ive read plenty of posts where the Acerbis petcocks are lower than the carb inlet and that's not anything I want to deal with.
I installed 2 Acerbis tanks on DR's with no complaints but I've also never had a complaint on a Clarke tank either.

They're all good tanks.
I believe the choice comes down to capacity, price and looks.
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Old 01-28-2011, 06:44 PM   #6938
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Fellow DR250 / DR350 riders,

Once lstuckey1 posted a pic of his nice DR350 fitted with the Pro Moto Billet cargo rack, I knew it was the one I wanted. I even PM’d him about it.

So, I e-mailed Pro Moto asking if they would fabricate some more considering other people besides me showed interest. Luckily, customer sales representative Will Huffman answered that they still had 7 units left, and that once they were sold out no more would be fabricated. The best part is that he mentioned a special sale price to clear the inventory.

Standard price is $159.95, but for these last 6 units price is $94.95. If interested in this great deal, call Mr. Huffman ASAP and mention the discount code 'FORUMSDR250350' to purchase yours. Contact info:

Will Huffman
Customer Service/Sales
Pro Moto Billet & Fastway Performance
(866) 466-4762 ex. 231

As you may know, these racks fit equally all Suzuki DR250 / DR350 models and years.





Info taken from the Pro Moto Billet site:

"Like other Pro Moto Billet products, "Rack-It" cargo racks are a work of art. Not only are they functional, they look good too.

Each rack is CNC machined from a 1/2 inch thick plate of 6061 billet aluminum. The rack is then “hard clear” anodized for durability, ease of maintenance, and protection from the elements. We use only stainless steel fasteners to provide carefree maintenance. Most racks require no major modifications to mount. Installation instructions included.

Rack measures 10" W x 10" L. "



Any other info, go to: www.promotobillet.com


I will also post this in the TT forum, so hurry up!


Finally, I am in no way related to ProMoto Billet, as I don't even live in the US.....
Can one of you guy's who has this rack get me some dimensions? I wanna draw it in Solidworks and possibly mock up a proto type.
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Old 01-28-2011, 06:56 PM   #6939
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Another DR....

Seems like I stepped back in time, I bought the machine that appeared on the scene in 90, a year after I dumped a ton of $ into my year-old XT350, setting it up as an all-around performer. I feasted on sour grapes, and generally had a blast on that XT. I moved on to street bikes and trials competition, kind of gave DS riding up for 10 years or better. I had a plated XR600R until last year, then this deal came along. A 91, stone stock, 6k mi, still had the original trailwings. Now it has the usual light mods, 3x3 hole, jetted, mod pipe, sidestand switch-ectomy, 14t countershaft cog. I ride eastern woods a lot, I'm trying a Kenda Trackmaster/Pirelli MT21 front combo first. I added rimlocks, as I like to experiment with pressures- trials habit, I guess. I have 1 Bikemaster folding mirror, it works great on the road, so I'm gonna be adding one for the right. Moose heated grips that are amazing, and Moose barkbusters with the big plastic option. Anything to extend the season!
Unfortunately, the past month has bit the big one as far as temps and snowfall, the only two wheeling I've done the past few weeks is with the snowblower. It's good to see such a strong following on this series, they were truely a milestone bike.
Oh, and the sharpie-on-masking tape sign on the tank is a note to self- turn off the Raptor petcock, dummy.
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Old 01-28-2011, 07:15 PM   #6940
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Getting ready to go through the new (to me) 1990 DR350S and get it ready for the coming season. What kind of jetting do you guys find works best for high elevation? I live at 6000 feet. Most use will be 7000-9500 with limited excursions to 11000+.
Hello? Beuler? Anyone? Anyone?

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Old 01-28-2011, 07:32 PM   #6941
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Hello? Beuler? Anyone? Anyone?

My bike ran better at elevation ....actually the best gas millage I've ever had was Durango to Salida over Wolf Creek Pass last spring.

My bike has the CV with the Jesse's airbox mod done. 142 jet I think.

If I were you I would ride it some before dicking with the jets.

Edit~ I just read your year model. You have a pumper. I have no clue about setting that up....sorry...
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Old 01-28-2011, 07:50 PM   #6942
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IMO, six speed in the 350 is wasted with the current ratios. Gears are far too close together and top gear is not high enough.
I have to agree. On my DR350 kicker, I feel like I spend more time shifting than accelerating. The 1990-92 DR250S has a wider ratio gear box. I'm putting one in my 350 (click my sig line). The 250S's tranny has the same first and second gear, but 3rd and 4th are more spaced out. 5th is the same as the 350's 4th gear and 6th is higher. So with the 250's ratios, you essentially get one more gear above the 350's top gear.
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Old 01-29-2011, 06:43 AM   #6943
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I book-marked Montesa VR's awesome thread long ago, and always refer to it when thinking about dual-sports.

Page 1 Link: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281742

Table from later in thread once the list grew: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...&postcount=171

5.00 Montesa Cota 349 (6 speed) 25.25
4.97 Fantic 300 25.12
4.41 Yamaha TY250L 22.26
4.38 Yamaha DT175E (6 speed) 22.08
4.00 Honda TL250 (5 speed) 20.20
3.90 Yamaha XT225 (6 speed) 19.69
3.82 Montesa V75 Enduro (5 speed) 19.29
3.80 Hercules 250 (7 speed) 19.19
3.78 Honda CRF230L (6 speed) 19.12 (current widest ratio dual sport)
3.75 Suzuki DR125 (6 speed) 18.95
3.74 Can-Am 175 ASE 18.85
3.69 Montesa Enduro 360H (6 speed) 18.63
3.63 Kawasaki Sherpa 250 (6 speed) 18.30
3.54 Husqvarna 500XC 17.89
3.53 Suzuki RS175Z 17.85
3.53 Husqvarna 400WR 1984 17.82
3.53 Honda XR200R (6 speed) 17.81
3.51 Honda XR250R (6 speed) 17.69
3.47 Kawasaki KE125A5 (6 speed) 17.49
3.46 Yamaha XT250 2008 (5 speed) 17.50
3.45 Yamaha TW200 (5 speed) 17.43
3.45 Suzuki PE175D (6 speed) 17.42
3.40 Husqvarna TE610 (6 speed) 17.16
3.40 Honda XR200R 1984 17.16
3.36 Yamaha WR250R/WR250X (6-speed) 16.99
3.32 Kawasaki KLR250 (6 speed) 16.76
3.29 Yamaha Tenere (5 speed) 16.61
3.27 BMW G650X (5 speed) 16.54
3.25 Pegaso 650 (5 speed) 16.41
3.19 Husqvarna 175XC 16.10
3.18 Kawasaki KDX200 (6 speed) 16.08
3.18 KTM 530 E/XC-R (6 speed) 16.07
3.18 Husaberg FE650E (6 speed) 16.07
3.18 Honda XR650L (5 speed) 16.07
3.15 Kawasaki KLX250 (6 speed) 15.91
3.14 Yamaha IT200 (6 speed) 15.88
3.14 Honda XR350R (6 speed) 15.86
3.13 BMW F650GS (5 speed) 15.79
3.06 KTM 640 Adventure (5 speed) 15.44
3.04 KTM 950 (6 speed) 15.37
3.03 Yamaha XT500G (5 speed) 15.29
3.03 Suzuki DR350 (6 speed) 15.28
3.01 KTM 520 E/XC (6 speed) 15.16
2.93 Suzuki DR650 (5 speed) 14.77
2.88 Yamaha WR450 (5 speed) 14.52
2.88 KTM 690 (6 speed) 14.51
2.86 Kawasaki KLR650, KLX650 (5 speed) 14.42
2.82 Honda XR400 (5 speed) 14.27
2.80 BMW G450X (5 speed) 14.10
2.68 Kawasaki KLX450R (5 speed) 13.51
2.66 Honda XR650R (5 speed) 13.43
2.65 Suzuki DRZ400 (5 speed) 13.36
2.47 Aprilia RXV 550 (5 speed) 12.46
2.45 Husqvarna TE250 (6 speed) 12.40
2.21 Honda CR500R (5 speed) 11.17
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Old 01-29-2011, 03:35 PM   #6944
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Hey guys! just wanted to introduce myself, I am a proud new owner of a 99 dr350! its a street legal one with a supertrap exhaust, jetted, airbox mod, kn, metal hand guards, new rear fender and front, 15k on it. I talked the kid down to $1200! from what i have researched thats a pretty good price. I havent had a dualsport in a while but i had a drz400sm a while ago. I really miss riding in dirt! I am going to start at page one of this thread and hopefully eventually make my way back to here!
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Old 01-29-2011, 05:55 PM   #6945
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Nice to meet you RiverRatRider. You are going to like this thread. I have learned a lot from it. Good job on getting a great deal!
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