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Old 11-17-2011, 07:28 PM   #10231
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Hey Garth what are you doing here? Do you even own a dr these days. . ?
I was checking up on YOU...
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Old 11-18-2011, 11:32 AM   #10232
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On the stock BST33 carb, is there supposed to be a plastic washer underneath the clip on the needle?
Yes there is.

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Old 11-18-2011, 12:15 PM   #10233
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On the stock BST33 carb, is there supposed to be a plastic washer underneath the clip on the needle?
Be sure that the big plastic washer (# 3) is present and in the correct position as well.
It lays on top of the clip and the spring sits on top of it.

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Old 11-18-2011, 12:46 PM   #10234
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^ Maybe a dumb question, but is the needle supposed to be held in place or sit freely, held in the slide by gravity?
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Old 11-18-2011, 12:50 PM   #10235
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^ Maybe a dumb question, but is the needle supposed to be held in place or sit freely, held in the slide by gravity?
It's held in place by the clip (#4), which is sandwiched between the spring seat (#3) and the needle spacer (#9).

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Old 11-18-2011, 12:55 PM   #10236
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It's held in place by the clip (#4), which is sandwiched between the spring seat (#3) and the needle spacer (#9).

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Holy $hit. Maybe that's my problem. Mine's just sitting in there. I'm happy to say that this time, it's not my mistake. Bike came that way.
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Old 11-18-2011, 07:19 PM   #10237
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Holy $hit. Maybe that's my problem. Mine's just sitting in there. I'm happy to say that this time, it's not my mistake. Bike came that way.
Yeah, that's probably it, unless the PO put the special anti-gravity needle in there.
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Old 11-18-2011, 07:33 PM   #10238
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Hmm, I don't have the thick washer, part #3. That must be why my needle became unseated. Thank you for pointing that out Bob.
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Old 11-18-2011, 07:54 PM   #10239
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Holy $hit. Maybe that's my problem. Mine's just sitting in there. I'm happy to say that this time, it's not my mistake. Bike came that way.
You never know what a PO might have done. The TM33 pumper has two vent hoses and the PO of mine ran one hose between the two vents, effectively blocking them both.
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Old 11-18-2011, 11:07 PM   #10240
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Hmm, I don't have the thick washer, part #3. That must be why my needle became unseated. Thank you for pointing that out Bob.
I suppose you could call #3 a washer, but I think it would be more appropriate to call it a spring seat. Calling it a washer could cause some confusion, as the reader could mistake it for the spacer (#9) or perhaps think it's another part altogether (on the KTM BST40 carb for instance, there is a spring seat, a spacer, and a thick metal washer).

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Old 11-18-2011, 11:36 PM   #10241
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I suppose you could call #3 a washer, but I think it would be more appropriate to call it a spring seat. Calling it a washer could cause some confusion, as the reader could mistake it for the spacer (#9) or perhaps think it's another part altogether (on the KTM BST40 carb for instance, there is a spring seat, a spacer, and a thick metal washer).

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If you really want to get technical then lets call it what it is. It's called a "ring"
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Old 11-19-2011, 12:03 AM   #10242
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If you really want to get technical then lets call it what it is. It's called a "ring"
Part # 13382-42A00
Fits all DR350S models and other BST33 equipped machines.
I suppose one could leave it to Suzuki to define for us what something "is". This brings up some interesting dilemmas. The first is that "engrish" has not been completely purged from Japanese technical literature, and I'd hate to just surrender unconditionally to the permanent perversion of the English language. The second is that they often call things by names that are technically completely incorrect, such as calling a cold start enrichment circuit a "choke". The third is that terminology should allow the reader to be able to distinguish one item from another, which is usually accomplished by having it be suitably descriptive, which brings us to fourth, which is in this case that they use the term "ring" to describe two different components with different purposes in the same assembly.

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Old 11-19-2011, 05:58 PM   #10243
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I have a kidplate similar to this one on my DR project. Could someone tell me who made it and what it's worth? Thanks.

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Old 11-19-2011, 09:31 PM   #10244
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Loosened airbox and carb holder clamps,

turned carb,

removed top, spring, needle...

Replaced needle, added washer found around shop so needle is held in place by spring,

Returned carb to normal position.

Tightened airbox and carb holder screws.

Rode 30 miles.

Fixed.

14 minutes of work after 2 months of ownership, chasing electrical problems.

Thanks to the randomly timely conversation between EastBoundAndDown and Bob Onit, I've got a working DR.
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Old 11-19-2011, 10:09 PM   #10245
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Thanks to the randomly timely conversation between EastBoundAndDown and Bob Onit, I've got a working DR.
Yeah that's happened to me more than once here too. Casually reading along and all of a sudden "hey I have that problem..."

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