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Old 08-30-2014, 07:20 AM   #1
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Rat Rods = unshiny things

Wife really really wants me to build her a rat rod, a 29 Sedan to be exact (like the one pictured). I like the whole concept, and I am totally capable of building one, but certain things come to mind. #1 being, its gonna ride and handle like a POS and she will lose interest very quickly. Im sure I could incorporate some creature comforts to make it more enjoyable, but the common theme is to produce something that exudes just the opposite.

Im a researching type of guy, I dont buy or build on impulse. So consider this my recon on the subject. Anyone with any real input is very much appreciated.

Ive owned multitudes of older classic cars, and pretty much sold them due to lack of use (mainly cuz they were impractical or uncomfortable) Sold my 70 Corvette cuz it was a pain to get in and out of and burned my leg on the side pipes at least once a year. Sold my 63 Vdub dune buggy, that I replaced EVERY nut and bolt on, because I made the thing too fast and it didn't have enuf crash protection for my liking. Etc etc, you see where Im going with this.

Im kinda behind the 8 ball on this one because I keep buying myself expensive toys and she has nothing to call her own. Pretty much says she will get what she wants this time.

Thoughts ??

Oh yeah, this is kinda like what she wants

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Old 08-30-2014, 07:25 AM   #2
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Got a guy that lives close by that builds them for a living. This is his latest creation. If I had a garage I would build one in a heartbeat.



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Old 08-30-2014, 07:30 AM   #3
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that's the whole trick to rat rods, making a functional rod look like shit.

start with a S-10 so you at least have coils up front, power front disk brakes, and power steering.
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Old 08-30-2014, 07:57 AM   #4
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that's the whole trick to rat rods, making a functional rod look like shit.

start with a S-10 so you at least have coils up front, power front disk brakes, and power steering.
Yeah, start modern and then go with old bodywork, etc. You can even keep the A/C.
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Old 08-30-2014, 08:08 AM   #5
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Air bag suspension for the ride. Slammed when parked and reasonable ride height while driving.

Give your wife what she wants. Happy wife, happy life and all that jazz.


Post pics when you do it.
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Old 08-30-2014, 08:28 AM   #6
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Maybe you could get someone to give her a ride in one. It could change her mind.
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Old 08-30-2014, 08:32 AM   #7
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Air bag suspension for the ride. Slammed when parked and reasonable ride height while driving.

Give your wife what she wants. Happy wife, happy life and all that jazz.


Post pics when you do it.
Id do a build thread for sure.

It doesnt help matters any when her brother feeds the fire every time we see him. He has a 20 something coupe with a 700hp blown big block
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Old 08-30-2014, 08:35 AM   #8
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Maybe you could get someone to give her a ride in one. It could change her mind.
Afraid it wont, ive driven her around in her brothers coupe, just fuels the fire
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Old 08-30-2014, 08:43 AM   #9
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Let her build it herself, when it rides like shit at least you didn't waste your time.
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Old 08-30-2014, 09:16 AM   #10
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Old 08-30-2014, 09:34 AM   #11
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The rod in the first picture is haunting me ... I very nearly bought it when it was an unfinished project years ago, and it keeps cropping up. And I kick myself every time it comes back around ... perfect stance.

Love Rats, but they require just as much skill to build as a regular rod, just with less bondo and easter egg coloured paint. Way too many crap builds out there that get away with it by claiming to be a rat rod. Way too many Hot Wheels builds too, if you've gone so far as to make the car undriveable, apart from the trip from your trailer to your show spot, you've failed.

And please don't start with an S10. Nothing is worse than seeing the stamped steel of an independent suspension setup sticking out from under a 30s body.
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Old 08-30-2014, 10:35 AM   #12
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My God that's cool as shit!

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Old 08-30-2014, 11:14 AM   #13
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My God that's cool as shit!
It's just shit. Someone told the guy a Rad Rod is rusty and looks like it was put together by a drunk. The air filter on top of the hood is just dumb and the foot long allthread sticking out of it is doesn't help. It's not supposed to look like a piece of shit. Look at the wheels. They're crappy modern imports. Why not find a set of Cragar slot mags at a swap meet?

A good Rat Rod is actually very meticulously designed. Look at the details of one. I'd get a crate motor dress it up like I used the parts I had left over from other projects like mismatched valve covers and headers. I'd paint one head in cast iron colored paint and leave the other bare aluminum.

Something like this valve cover on one side. Studebaker used Chevy engines toward the end of production.

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Old 08-30-2014, 12:20 PM   #14
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Ive owned multitudes of older classic cars, and pretty much sold them due to lack of use (mainly cuz they were impractical or uncomfortable)

Oh yeah, this is kinda like what she wants

My thought is that wouldn't be comfortable or practical but I'm not a Rat Rod fan.
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Old 08-30-2014, 06:49 PM   #15
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Rat rod is just a style, doesn't mean it has to be a piece of junk mechanically.
Build a good chassis with some of the more modern touches to make it drive nice, but please, no S-10 frame. A good rat is fenderless and no fenderless car should have an IFS of any sort, let alone crappy looking stamped steel S-10 stuff. You can put good shocks, swaybars and disk brakes on a straight axle and make it drive damn nice. You can even get rack and pinion steering that is just about invisible instead of using a crappy old vega box or something like that. Make it safe above all, I've seen some rat rod stuff that IMO would be unsafe at parking lot speeds, never mind on the road.
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