Nwgs Jeep'n Thread

[JeeBee]

Originally Posted by Range Motorsport

Entertaining is finding people who overlook the weaknesses of one product while touting the weaknesses of another. Everything has a negative aspect to it's design. When you need a locker the welded rear end is always there working. If you need to lock the ARB it isn't guaranteed to work. In all of my years of offroading I have never seen a carrier explode on anything, but I have seen a dozen axle shafts break and I have seen ARB's fail to engage.

I personally run a detroit and spool in my wheeling rig, a welded rear in my plow Jeep, and a Powertrax No-Slip in my DD.

Sounds to me like you're overlooking the weakness of the welded differential while touting the weakness of the ARB. You are right about one thing. Everything has a negative side to it. Air lockers can have air leaks, Detroits can break (yes, I've seen them break), anything locked full time actually costs you traction when turning. The welded stuff, most of the time, isn't welded properly and breaks loose a bunch of crap to wipe out the gears. It also utilizes the stock case which is rarely up to the task. I want to like the OX locker. It's very well made and has a very nice cable to actuate it, but the cable is in harms way where it attaches at the cover. That cable is quite expensive.

[longtallsally]

So I took the "new" (it already has 9500 miles on it! ) out for our first family run. We took a couple hits on the rockers and scuffed the skid plates in a couple places, but it performed amazingly well. Having the ultra low crawl ratio allowed me to idle through the first 2 rock gardens. I only needed the lockers a couple times (admittedly mainly b/c I was to lazy to air down as usual). Our 6 month old even giggled through it.

[03rubicon]

What do you think about the show " One car to far "

[longtallsally]

Originally Posted by 03rubicon

What do you think about the show " One car to far "

Hope you're not asking me. I thought it was a cool concept that is pathetic. Read the reviews on Pirate and they read like an old school ADV jo mamma thread it's so bad...

[Colemanfu]

Realityish TV is all about personality and those two come off as a little uptight .

[Jeffy]

Originally Posted by longtallsally

Hope you're not asking me. I thought it was a cool concept that is pathetic. Read the reviews on Pirate and they read like an old school ADV jo mamma thread it's so bad...

I haven't looked on POR but I'd imagine Bill is getting his ass handed to him. Gary is alright though. If it was me, I'd have open-diffs on that Jeep. I'll still watch it, it's like a train wreck..

[longtallsally]

Originally Posted by Jeffy

I haven't looked on POR but I'd imagine Bill is getting his ass handed to him. Gary is alright though. If it was me, I'd have open-diffs on that Jeep. I'll still watch it, it's like a train wreck..

Dude, it does have open diffs. I just finished half watching (while working) the one coming off the volcano where they snapped a shaft. The morons didn't even notice it and didn't know what had happened. Then, par for the course, that idiot Wu pulls the E brake with the drum well off the axle. Such an idiot... Then they whined about having to push the wheel back on. Why not take that utterly stupid rope off the tires, and use it to lash the hi lift? Just plain stupid.

[nwgs]

Originally Posted by longtallsally

. Our 6 month old even giggled through it.

Kids dig jeeps..

[Jeffy]

Originally Posted by longtallsally

Dude, it does have open diffs. I just finished half watching (while working) the one coming off the volcano where they snapped a shaft. The morons didn't even notice it and didn't know what had happened. Then, par for the course, that idiot Wu pulls the E brake with the drum well off the axle. Such an idiot... Then they whined about having to push the wheel back on. Why not take that utterly stupid rope off the tires, and use it to lash the hi lift? Just plain stupid.

Hmm, I thought I heard mention of a locker. I guess not. That's a testament to Bills driving ability then I guess. Breaking the axle with an open diff before getting to the rocks.

I find it a bit strange that no one noticed the pop when the axle went. He doesn't really bother to look outside. I guess you don't do that when driving H1's and Lambo's.

I though the rope on the tires was dumb as well. They had the ax as well as the hi-lift handle, they could have used to keep that tire on. but then it might have been too east to just drive out. Also, is it going to be a running theme with Gary cutting out the rear seat belts?




Oh, where were you when you took those pics? Looks fun.

[longtallsally]

Originally Posted by Jeffy

Hmm, I thought I heard mention of a locker. I guess not. That's a testament to Bills driving ability then I guess. Breaking the axle with an open diff before getting to the rocks.

While going down hill and supposedly more or less off the throttle. Dude is just such a tool...

Originally Posted by Jeffy

I find it a bit strange that no one noticed the pop when the axle went. He doesn't really bother to look outside. I guess you don't do that when driving H1's and Lambo's.

Based on how dumb they are otherwise, didn't surprise me in the slightest, but kinda makes you mad if you are informed about it as you know it is totally misrepresenting reality...

Originally Posted by Jeffy

I though the rope on the tires was dumb as well. They had the ax as well as the hi-lift handle, they could have used to keep that tire on. but then it might have been too east to just drive out. Also, is it going to be a running theme with Gary cutting out the rear seat belts?

I was thinking the same thing with the belts...

Originally Posted by Jeffy

Oh, where were you when you took those pics? Looks fun.

Signal Peak. Trail head is right next to Fordyce Creek and at one point I think you can look down and see the Fordyce Creek trail.

http://longtallsallygs.smugmug.com/C...9560&k=NfM7W8Q

No hard core shots as my wife had to make sure we didn't get a "shaken baby". Fun trail that we did as a day trip. I think you have a YJ that is pretty hopped up, so it would be a breeze for you.

Plans (and parts orders) are in place to get the JK ready for its namesake the first weekend in Oct if you want to go...

[Jeffy]

Originally Posted by longtallsally

Signal Peak. Trail head is right next to Fordyce Creek and at one point I think you can look down and see the Fordyce Creek trail.

http://longtallsallygs.smugmug.com/C...9560&k=NfM7W8Q

No hard core shots as my wife had to make sure we didn't get a "shaken baby". Fun trail that we did as a day trip. I think you have a YJ that is pretty hopped up, so it would be a breeze for you.

Plans (and parts orders) are in place to get the JK ready for its namesake the first weekend in Oct if you want to go...

Yeah, my Jeep is built up a little but I'm more interested in exploring then rock crawling so that trail looks interesting.

I'd love to do the Rubicon this year but I've got to replace my transfer case. Long stretches on the highways and my driveshaft yoke sounds like ball bearings in a coffee can. I'm saving up for an Atlas right now. I might go with a 5.0:1 instead of the 11.50:1 so I can save $1000 and gain much needed driveshaft length. I could fix the NV231 for a lot less but I've been wanting an Atlas since they came out and so I don't want to put any money the stock transfer case.

[Barry]

A better show than these idiots would be camera crews on real off-road riding areas filming real people off-roading. Say Slickrock in Moab, Rubicon Express, etc. The show sux and the two guys have no chemistry.

Barry

[longtallsally]

Originally Posted by Jeffy

Yeah, my Jeep is built up a little but I'm more interested in exploring then rock crawling so that trail looks interesting.

I'd love to do the Rubicon this year but I've got to replace my transfer case. Long stretches on the highways and my driveshaft yoke sounds like ball bearings in a coffee can. I'm saving up for an Atlas right now. I might go with a 5.0:1 instead of the 11.50:1 so I can save $1000 and gain much needed driveshaft length. I could fix the NV231 for a lot less but I've been wanting an Atlas since they came out and so I don't want to put any money the stock transfer case.

I've been wondering, is that Teraflex 4 to 1 kit for the 231 still around? I wanted one of those so bad for my YJ back in the day, but had too many other toys to be able to do it. Now that I've that low a range- as well as multitude of other stuff in the JK- I feel like an idiot for never doing it. It makes crawling a total joke.

So I totally understand wanting an Atlas. I remember they were like $4k initially and I just couldn't come close to justifying it, and based on how much it would cost to make the machine that much more capable I kinda gave up based on losing interest since I couldn't afford to make it what I wanted.

Thus the JK is really all I need save some armor, winch, and a few other doo dads. I'm not trying to do Fordyce, but want to be able to do the Rubicon- and I can. And I've got a heck of a nice family vehicle that gets darn acceptable economy. Including the drive up and back (at close to 80 most of the way) and the 4 low action on the trail (~15 miles) we got 18 mpg. I'm totally in lust with it.

Maybe next season we can hit it. Right now my debate is whether to get the Teraflex 1" leveling (spring) lift, or put a cheeseball spacer lift in lieu of getting the AEV 2.5" lift. I don't plan on going any larger in tires as I don't want to hurt the economy that much, and would prefer to not lift at all, but I need to compensate for the winch going on the front. Suggestions?

[RedRocker]

I've got an OME lift on mine, great flex and rarely need lockers due to wheels staying on the ground.

[longtallsally]

Originally Posted by RedRocker

I've got an OME lift on mine, great flex and rarely need lockers due to wheels staying on the ground.

How big is the lift and what size tires are you running?

I'm trying very hard not to lift it as I don't want to kill economy. All I'm really trying to do is compensate for the winch about to go on the front. I do NOT want spacers.