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Old 10-15-2012, 05:17 PM   #1756
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The bypass I've always taken is actually up to the left. It is where I tore off the fender flare and dinged the rear door on the driver's side.

And they didn't cut the tree down, it actually fell from weather conditions:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/rubic...ss-friend.html

Everyone was very sad about it.
Wow, I didn't realize the tree fell last winter. It was in some of the early Little Sluice pics I've seen. I remember sitting next to it back in '98.

I thought they closed the bypass to the left? That's one of the reason they softened the little sluice?
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:16 PM   #1757
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Wow, I didn't realize the tree fell last winter. It was in some of the early Little Sluice pics I've seen. I remember sitting next to it back in '98.

I thought they closed the bypass to the left? That's one of the reason they softened the little sluice?
I've never thought I could make it up on the right previously, so I've always gone left.

I didn't see one person go right nor have I other than the gnarly machines...
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:01 PM   #1758
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Any NP231 Experts?

So my 4x4 wasn't working on my 1995 Wrangler YJ, was hoping it was a Vacuum or CAD issue but after checking everything out, everything was pointing to xfer case issues. So after I dropped it, I could spin the rear output shaft and the front output with spin (4hi selected) but as soon as I grabbed the front output shaft it would stop spinning almost like it was barely engaged and something was slipping inside.

After I opened up the case, I found the large shift fork was missing 2 of the 3 plastic tabs. Everything else inside the transfer case seemed in good shape, none of the gears looked damaged and no evidence of overheating.

Could those broken plastic tabs/pads cause this? Is my chain stretched too much (didn't seem unreasonably loose but I don't know what the tolerances are)?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:26 PM   #1759
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So my 4x4 wasn't working on my 1995 Wrangler YJ, was hoping it was a Vacuum or CAD issue but after checking everything out, everything was pointing to xfer case issues. So after I dropped it, I could spin the rear output shaft and the front output with spin (4hi selected) but as soon as I grabbed the front output shaft it would stop spinning almost like it was barely engaged and something was slipping inside.

After I opened up the case, I found the large shift fork was missing 2 of the 3 plastic tabs. Everything else inside the transfer case seemed in good shape, none of the gears looked damaged and no evidence of overheating.

Could those broken plastic tabs/pads cause this? Is my chain stretched too much (didn't seem unreasonably loose but I don't know what the tolerances are)?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Well, it sounds like the forks aren't moving the shift collar. Those plastic pads are what ride against the collar when shifting. Probably too much slop in the fork to shift the collar.
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:16 PM   #1760
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Well, it sounds like the forks aren't moving the shift collar. Those plastic pads are what ride against the collar when shifting. Probably too much slop in the fork to shift the collar.
I'm going to order the rebuild kit and put it back together. Hopefully that'll cure it.
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:18 PM   #1761
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I'm going to order the rebuild kit and put it back together. Hopefully that'll cure it.
If you need a FSM, let me know.
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:21 PM   #1762
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Anyone else with a JK find when they use the auto lever pump thing at the gas station (so you can take your hand off the pump handle) it overflows and comes pouring out? Even if I just hold it there's rarely a heads up click that shes full, its just BOOM gas everywhere.
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:57 AM   #1763
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My JK has never done it but I've heard of it. I'm thinking there may even be a recall. I'll look around and report back.

Okay, I'm back. Looks like no recall, but Chrysler will warranty work on it for the life of the vehicle:

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/28/n...pillage-probl/

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ODI found the rate of warranty claims related to fuel spit back on the subject vehicles is lower than other vehicles previously recalled to correct defects related to fuel spit back. Although the rate of complaints reported to the agency on the subject vehicles is higher than or similar to the rates experienced in previous investigations where safety recalls were conducted, ODI suspects that the NHTSA safety complaints submitted by subject vehicles owners may have been influenced by internet related publicity both before and during this investigation. A safety-related defect trend has not been identified at this time and further use of agency resources does not appear to be warranted. Accordingly, this investigation is closed. The closing of this investigation does not constitute a finding by NHTSA that no safety-related defect exists. The agency will monitor the issue and reserves the right to take future action if warranted by the circumstances. See attached report for additional information. In addition, Chrysler is initiating a lifetime warranty program, at no cost to the consumer, to address the fuel spit back problem in approximately 135,000 model year 2007-2008 Jeep Wrangler vehicles built from March 1, 2007 to March 31, 2008. Chrysler will notify all affected vehicle owners of this action. Consumers should refer to the warranty and service bulletins and sample owner notification letter available in the investigative file. The vehicle build date can be found on the certification label located on the driver door or door jamb.

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Old 10-30-2012, 06:46 AM   #1764
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My '06 LJ tends to spit back like this. I guess I'm just screwed since it was built before 03-2007?
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:10 AM   #1765
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My '06 LJ tends to spit back like this. I guess I'm just screwed since it was built before 03-2007?
Same here, 06 LJ with a 1.25 body lift. I've been told the lift changed the angle of the fill hose causing it to do that.
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:12 AM   #1766
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I just talked to a buddy w/ an '06 Rubi. His does the same thing. He pointed me to this thread:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f176/...recall-974337/
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:36 AM   #1767
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My '06 LJ tends to spit back like this. I guess I'm just screwed since it was built before 03-2007?
Mine will do it as well if and only if I insert the fuel nozzle all the way in, if I put it in all the way then slide it back out to the first notch it will shut off correctly.

Mine with a 2" suspension lift which makes no nevermind.....
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:21 AM   #1768
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No lift on my LJ. Factory suspension with optional 30's underneath, so I'm thinking it might not have much to do with height. I'm just glad to know that it's not just me.

Thanks for the link.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:29 AM   #1769
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Anyone else with a JK find when they use the auto lever pump thing at the gas station (so you can take your hand off the pump handle) it overflows and comes pouring out? Even if I just hold it there's rarely a heads up click that shes full, its just BOOM gas everywhere.
My 07 JK Unlimited does this. Saw that it might be covered, but haven't gotten around to fixing it yet. I just estimate how much fuel I need in the tank based on the gauge and pump gas a little slower as I approach full tank, doesn't spit if I am paying attention and remember to do this.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:05 AM   #1770
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Here is a fix for the gas overflow problem on 05 and 06 TJ/LJ's.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/05...w-fix-1335243/

I haven't done it yet so ymmv but do have the parts at home waiting on some ambition.
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