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Old 09-14-2010, 09:31 PM   #781
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Watched a guy barrel into a hole like that. Some dickweed put a big ass rock in the middle. After that I'm never first through the mudhole.

Yeah and I only do mud if it's in the way of some perfectly good rocks.

About the time I have myself talked out of modding the Liberty you post crap like this.

OK, spill it, what mods have you done? I see rock sliders and a lift?
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:11 PM   #782
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All J products Frankenlift-on my Jeep it's about 3"
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Powertank for air.....well CO2

That's really about it. There's a high pinion Dana 30 sitting out by the shop waiting for me to get offa my ass and swap it under there. Then it's gonna be OX locker up front and a good old Detroit out back with 4:88's. Probably no bigger than 33's.

It's got a shitload of wheel travel.
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Old 10-18-2010, 10:14 AM   #783
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Old 10-18-2010, 12:21 PM   #784
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Just got back from Green River UT, great weather every day for wheeling.
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Old 10-25-2010, 06:29 AM   #785
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Last week UPS delivered this very small expensive box...



So I installed it, and got a chance Sat. to try it out.



The co-piolt approved.

We rode along with these guys we met at the trail head for a while:




Poser shots









A fun rocky section of trail








Good times



The aussie locker was installed in the front Dana 30, and without a doubt makes the Jeep more sure footed in the loose rocky sections, but IMHO did little for the hill climbing abilities for this type of wheeling (loose gravel to baby heads). There is a lot of steep hill climbs, off camber climbs and ruts. The rear will get an Aussie ASAP, its good bang for your buck when compared to the competition.



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Old 10-25-2010, 12:16 PM   #786
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The rear will get an Aussie ASAP, its good bang for your buck when compared to the competition.



I don't believe they're made for the rear of a JK.

Nice pics, BTW.
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Old 10-25-2010, 01:30 PM   #787
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4 door wrangler

I like the looks of those 4 door wranglers. Any weakness/known issues with those?
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Old 10-25-2010, 05:27 PM   #788
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Old 10-25-2010, 05:39 PM   #789
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I like the looks of those 4 door wranglers. Any weakness/known issues with those?
No diesel option............
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Old 10-26-2010, 06:19 AM   #790
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I like the looks of those 4 door wranglers. Any weakness/known issues with those?
$34K? I purchased mine for 20 OTD. It was a 07 I got in spring of 08 with 15k miles. It has the sahara package that is mostly a trim package.

I have several diesel work trucks, but I do not understand the great advantage of a diesel in a JK, maybe someone will enlighten me.

Like all Jeeps the JK has many things that can be upgraded if you want to use it as a trail rig. The Dana 30 front and 35 rear lots of people say are weak, but many breakages might be due to wheel size, and driving style. Flame on!

We use ours as a DD and trail rig/camping vehicle. With creative packing we can stuff enough crap in it to load me, the wife, our 2 girls, and the dog for a 3 day weekend primitive camping.

The 3.8 V6 is weak, the gas milage sucks, and I would not trade it for any vehicle made in a comparable price range.

Hind sight is 20/20. When I got the Jeep, the dealer had a 07 Rubicon on the lot for 25k. The rubicon has Dana 44 axles, electric lockers, and electric sway bar disconnects. That extra 5K is money well spent if you plan to wheel the Jeep. It would be very tough to upgrade a base model with those options for an additional 5K even if you do all of the work yourself.

The last Jeep I owned was a 89 YJ. The JK IMHO is a good compromise between the rugged jeeps of old and modern creature comforts.
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Old 10-26-2010, 08:17 PM   #791
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The aussie locker was installed in the front Dana 30, and without a doubt makes the Jeep more sure footed in the loose rocky sections, but IMHO did little for the hill climbing abilities for this type of wheeling (loose gravel to baby heads). There is a lot of steep hill climbs, off camber climbs and ruts. The rear will get an Aussie ASAP, its good bang for your buck when compared to the competition.




Why Why Why?
Why do people put a lunchbox locker in the front? I don't know who started this garbage but it's the worst thing you can do to a trail jeep/DD. Locker in the rear is the only way to go with a light trail jeep and daily driver. You will curse that thing if you drive it on snowy roads.
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Old 10-26-2010, 10:31 PM   #792
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Why Why Why?
Why do people put a lunchbox locker in the front? I don't know who started this garbage but it's the worst thing you can do to a trail jeep/DD. Locker in the rear is the only way to go with a light trail jeep and daily driver. You will curse that thing if you drive it on snowy roads.
im half asleep right now but are you kidding me? have you ever had a lunch box type locker in the rear on a dd?? when you have one in the front the most you get onroad is a bit of clicking when making tight turns.
when you have one in the rear, in my experience w/ mine and a few friends jeeps, you get a bunch of banging from the locker engaging and disengaging every time you gas it/let off the gas. it sucks onroad to have the rear axle locking/unlocking all the time.
I'd rather have a mini spool in my back axle again vs having a aussie locker in the back again.
I'd recomend a aussie in the rear for a trail jeep but never in a daily driver.

edit: just read that you said snowy roads, i can see how a lunchbox locker would be horrible in the front axle in snowy roads. no snow down here in FL
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Old 10-27-2010, 05:49 AM   #793
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Why do people put a lunchbox locker in the front...


We almost never get more than 3-4 inches of snow, and when we do its on the ground less than a day.

I have never had any type of locker in a vehicle that I have owned. Time will tell. The locker in the front axle is invisible as a DD. The only time I have heard clicking is during very tight turns on the trial.

Since the Aussie locker is only 6 small pieces, it literally can be put back to stock in 2-3 hours. Personally I like the simplicity of this set up with few components to fail. I have read that they wear out after time, but at $250 shipped to my door it is by far the cheapest upgrade to add trail performance to the Jeep.

Other than snow driving, what are the inherent problems with a lunch box style locker?
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Old 10-27-2010, 06:34 AM   #794
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We almost never get more than 3-4 inches of snow, and when we do its on the ground less than a day.

I have never had any type of locker in a vehicle that I have owned. Time will tell. The locker in the front axle is invisible as a DD. The only time I have heard clicking is during very tight turns on the trial.

Since the Aussie locker is only 6 small pieces, it literally can be put back to stock in 2-3 hours. Personally I like the simplicity of this set up with few components to fail. I have read that they wear out after time, but at $250 shipped to my door it is by far the cheapest upgrade to add trail performance to the Jeep.

Other than snow driving, what are the inherent problems with a lunch box style locker?
While I admit to having no personal experience, I will say that in my past 6 months of reading, the only disadvantage I can see to an Aussie in a D30 (other than snowy or, moreso, icey roads, as said above) is that they work incredibly well! I'm just concerned about snapping an axle or something else because you can't unlock the diff in 4x4.

A lot of guys love 'em, though. Personally, I'm impressed with the OEM Brake Lock Differential. Works well and is easier on parts than a locker. I was tempted by the Aussie, but I've pretty much decided to wait on a locker until something stronger than a D30 is under my JK. Maybe I'm a wimp.

Hey, were those pics @ LBL? We were there a few weeks ago.
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Old 10-27-2010, 06:49 AM   #795
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...wait on a locker until something stronger than a D30 is under my JK. Maybe I'm a wimp.

Hey, were those pics @ LBL? We were there a few weeks ago.
I have been looking into upgrading the axles to Dana 44s, they can be found all day long used for $500 a pair, with internals. I am not sure yet how get around the traction control (ESB) system on the JK, I think the sensor is located in the hub and not the axle, but I have not had time to investigate.

Those pics were LBL, I am planning a trip to Coal Creek, 11-13, that will be a better test of this set up. If it's gonna break it will break there.
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