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Old 05-12-2009, 02:59 PM   #271
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some things just get me all hot and bothered...
Think of all the poor bikes that had to die for that thing to be made.
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Old 05-12-2009, 03:45 PM   #272
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There's an OEM XL600 luggage rack on eBay right now.
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Old 05-12-2009, 05:21 PM   #273
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There's an OEM XL600 luggage rack on eBay right now.
Shhhh ,been watching and waiting.
I'll probably wait until I get the motor back in and runnig before I spend any more $$.
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:01 PM   #274
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I got my idle situation straightened out. It was a too-tightly-adjusted valve.
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Old 05-12-2009, 07:58 PM   #275
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does anybody know if i could put my 85 engine in a p1 xr600r frame? do you what will work and what won't...
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Old 05-12-2009, 08:31 PM   #276
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also does anybody know if i can get a mso for the bike and then get it titled her in washington.... if so how do i get a mso? thanks
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Old 05-12-2009, 08:37 PM   #277
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does anybody know if i could put my 85 engine in a p1 xr600r frame? do you what will work and what won't...
The 85 has dual carbs which will not fit into the 91 bike without major headaches. Check out Zombies thread where he tried the opposite switch.
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Old 05-12-2009, 09:10 PM   #278
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It's a '91? I thought he said "p-1", but I was confused by that.

In all that I've been through with these bikes and their engines and accessories, I say do what you must, but keep the single carb/dual carb heads in their appropriate frames. Switch heads/carbs if you really want to. It's another case of "anything's possible for a certain amount of money".
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Old 05-12-2009, 09:16 PM   #279
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thanks for the info i will just try nd keep the frames and engines with the rite ones....i am trying to get some title issues figured out ....
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Old 05-13-2009, 06:54 AM   #280
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was glad to have the difference illustrated in a poorly running bike and a good one, thanks. im even gladder that my bike sounds exactly the same as the second video, except for my noisy timing chain. i always feel lucky that although ive regularly checked the clearances they were always perfect and ive never had to touch them in 15000ks of riding.

im looking at the moment for a moderately priced timing chain so i can get it over and done with. so far on the list:

-timing chain
-yoshi gsxr exhaust
-subframe
-custom sump guard with engine protector bars
-bigger tool box
and the illusive, if somewhat too tall, xr suspension.

and a question about the timing chain:

if im going to pull it apart for the chain, should the tensioner thingy be changed aswell? i remember you saying that it was the weakest part of these engines.
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Old 05-13-2009, 08:19 AM   #281
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Waterscm,

If your going to change the timing chain you may as well do the chain tensioner. Never had any problems with mine back in the day but who knows. The way to tell if the chain is bad is to put the engine at TDC and check the cam timing marks. Unfortunately it requires the rocker cover being off. There are 3 marks on the cam gear. 3, 9 and 12 O'clock. The 3+9 line up with the head and 12 o'clock is at well 12 o'clock. If the marks line up at 3:30 or 8:30 then the chain is streched.

It will involve taking the rocker cover off which requires either the engine out of the frame or completely loose so it can be tipped to the right to get the cover off. Also the clutch cover comes off to access the crank end of the chain.

Parts required: Cam chain,tensioner, rocker cover and clutch cover gaskets. Depends how good you are at spinning the wrench's but it's about a days work.
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Old 05-13-2009, 06:56 PM   #282
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Waterscm,

If your going to change the timing chain you may as well do the chain tensioner. Never had any problems with mine back in the day but who knows. The way to tell if the chain is bad is to put the engine at TDC and check the cam timing marks. Unfortunately it requires the rocker cover being off. There are 3 marks on the cam gear. 3, 9 and 12 O'clock. The 3+9 line up with the head and 12 o'clock is at well 12 o'clock. If the marks line up at 3:30 or 8:30 then the chain is streched.

It will involve taking the rocker cover off which requires either the engine out of the frame or completely loose so it can be tipped to the right to get the cover off. Also the clutch cover comes off to access the crank end of the chain.

Parts required: Cam chain,tensioner, rocker cover and clutch cover gaskets. Depends how good you are at spinning the wrench's but it's about a days work.
after watching zombie's video im pretty sure the timing isnt out. i just dont like the noise of the chain slapping into the engine casing, but obviously the tensioner does enough too keep it in time?

provided thats what the noise is.

ive been googling this problem on xls and found that a semi-popular mod is to install a manual tensioner. but even the useage of that sounds too copmlicated for a mechanical luddite such as myself.
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Old 05-13-2009, 07:38 PM   #283
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after watching zombie's video im pretty sure the timing isnt out. i just dont like the noise of the chain slapping into the engine casing, but obviously the tensioner does enough too keep it in time?

provided thats what the noise is.

ive been googling this problem on xls and found that a semi-popular mod is to install a manual tensioner. but even the useage of that sounds too copmlicated for a mechanical luddite such as myself.
I've known it is possible to specially machine the head to have something adjustable behind the place the cam chain tensioner spring rests in order to re-tension it. I don't know how effective this could be though.

I'd be very interested in any photos or anything you've found on this subject.
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Old 05-13-2009, 07:49 PM   #284
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Ok I been on here for awhile...never post just read. I've owned my XL for about two years now....LOVE IT! Wish I would have bought one years ago. Here are a few before and after pix...enjoy!

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Old 05-13-2009, 10:08 PM   #285
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I've known it is possible to specially machine the head to have something adjustable behind the place the cam chain tensioner spring rests in order to re-tension it. I don't know how effective this could be though.

I'd be very interested in any photos or anything you've found on this subject.
well ive only found about 3 mentions of it on the entire interweb so far:

one with pics in dutch:

http://www.motor-forum.nl/forum/list...938729#4938729



another person said they had done it:

http://www.motorcyclesurvey.com/revi...r596/comments/

(check the scond last comment) and for some reason the person who wrote the last comment thinks the xls weigh 180kgs? i dont think so! its 134 dry.



and number three was someone saying they were going to do it.
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