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Old 09-10-2007, 02:00 AM   #16
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I just put Ohlins on my 1100: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264586

It's worth the money, you won't regret it Just make sure you get springs that match your weight (plus whatever you intend to carry).
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:13 AM   #17
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We are an Ohlins Dealer. The more expensive rear shock for the GS has an external reservoir with an independent compression adjuster, is length adjustable and uses a secondary damper piston and chamber to give a position sensitive damping profile. The lower end shock may be a good fit since it costs less and the Ohlins front shock has none of those features anyhow. We have upgraded the front shocks to the Team Motorrad Race Bikes so that the also have a remote reservoir with adjustability. Those mods are available through the team.

If you replace the stock shocks before they are shot, you get a nice performance improvement, a set of shocks that will last forever with regular service and if you sell your bike, swap the shocks back and sell the Ohlins set to another rider with a great retention of the shocks value. By far the most cost effective performance mod.
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:53 AM   #18
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NC Rick thanks a lot for the info. Greatly appreciated. I think I am going to go with the 543 rear.
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:44 PM   #19
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Question Canister Removal?

I talked to Ohlins' shock tech today about the BM 543. They stated it cannot be installed without removal of the cannister. I know 11XX GS owners have removed the cannister in the past but what about warranty issues? Would like the 543 but won't risk warranty for it. The local dealers are all closed on Mondays so any experience out there?
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:59 PM   #20
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I love my ohlins. My stock bike felt ok with just me on it, when I would put the gf on the back, it felt like a 64 ford ford wagon thru the turns. I just spent a long weekend riding the nc mountains (new ohlins on) and couldn't be happier with the new shocks........... Still , the best farkle is the kaoko.
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:10 PM   #21
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I talked to Ohlins' shock tech today about the BM 543. They stated it cannot be installed without removal of the cannister. I know 11XX GS owners have removed the cannister in the past but what about warranty issues? Would like the 543 but won't risk warranty for it. The local dealers are all closed on Mondays so any experience out there?
There is no warranty issue with removing the canister, so long as you do it right. The local dealers here will remove it for you if you ask them.

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Old 09-10-2007, 02:26 PM   #22
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If you replace the stock shocks before they are shot, you get a nice performance improvement, a set of shocks that will last forever with regular service
Someone else asked but I don't think it was answered - how often do they need servicing?
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:36 PM   #23
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Someone else asked but I don't think it was answered - how often do they need servicing?
It depends on several factors. If you are a heavy rider, ride off road a lot, heavily load your bike and ride hard, as low as 15K miles. On the other hand, many go as high as 40K miles before needing it.

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Old 09-11-2007, 04:04 AM   #24
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Ok, that's about what I thought. I'm somewhere in between those 2 extremes so probably 30-40,000km. Thanks
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Old 09-13-2007, 03:52 PM   #25
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30,000 miles is a lot. The shock performance will suffer and the particulates that accumulate in the oil embed themselves into the Teflon coated piston rings, causing wear that you would not normally have. I recently did a set for a BMW rider with that many miles and one of the two shocks was really in dire need and the other was not so bad. weird. It is not expensive to service the shocks and it will keep them working like new for life. Another issue is that if you travel a lot, it stinks to blow a seal during a trip. At higher miles, not only is there the wear issue for the quadra ring and shaft bushing, we see a lot of dirt packed in there after 15-20K miles. Renewing the shaft seal (quad ring, anti-extrusion ring and shaft scraper) components is an inexpensive preventative step.
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Old 09-13-2007, 03:59 PM   #26
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30,000 miles is a lot. The shock performance will suffer and the particulates that accumulate in the oil embed themselves into the Teflon coated piston rings, causing wear that you would not normally have. I recently did a set for a BMW rider with that many miles and one of the two shocks was really in dire need and the other was not so bad. weird. It is not expensive to service the shocks and it will keep them working like new for life. Another issue is that if you travel a lot, it stinks to blow a seal during a trip. At higher miles, not only is there the wear issue for the quadra ring and shaft bushing, we see a lot of dirt packed in there after 15-20K miles. Renewing the shaft seal (quad ring, anti-extrusion ring and shaft scraper) components is an inexpensive preventative step.
If I sent mine in at 15K miles, I would be rebuilding them nearly twice a year.

Not disputing you, just sayin'!

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Old 09-13-2007, 04:15 PM   #27
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30,000 miles is a lot. The shock performance will suffer and the particulates that accumulate in the oil embed themselves into the Teflon coated piston rings, causing wear that you would not normally have. I recently did a set for a BMW rider with that many miles and one of the two shocks was really in dire need and the other was not so bad. weird. It is not expensive to service the shocks and it will keep them working like new for life. Another issue is that if you travel a lot, it stinks to blow a seal during a trip. At higher miles, not only is there the wear issue for the quadra ring and shaft bushing, we see a lot of dirt packed in there after 15-20K miles. Renewing the shaft seal (quad ring, anti-extrusion ring and shaft scraper) components is an inexpensive preventative step.
Euh !?

I have riden 45000 km to date this year. More than 20000 km of small and tough little gravel road. Kind of road you never meet anyone. My bike has now 65000 km.

I still have the original OEM suspension. Never rebuilt it.

Doctor, Am I normal ?
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:25 PM   #28
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Worth every penny. Here is the link to my review: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=249060
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:15 PM   #29
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It took me a while to post back and it is my first attempt at an attachment. I ride fairly hard but here are some shims from my shock with 15,000 miles. i waited too long, that crap will not clean off and shims needed replacing. These are out of a Penske shock
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Old 10-25-2007, 04:08 PM   #30
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The difference is so dramatic that you won't believe it. Youre BMW will now handle like a firm sport bike on rails.
No, no it won't. Yes, it is a dramatic difference. But Ohlins will not transform a GS into a firm sport-bike.

The GS has nearly 9" of suspension travel. A Gixxer has 3", give or take. There simply is not way to make 9" of travel as precise as a sportbike with 3" of travel.

I am running Ohlins with "+2" spring rates. I weight 190#, the shocks are weighted for a 240# man. I have compression dialed in to around 5 clicks from max...rebound damping set to match. About 4 turns in on pre-load.

Is the bike firm and controlled? Yes. Is it a sportbike? Fuck no. Not with 9" of travel. I'd need springs for a 400# man to reach that level of precision and even then there would still be more shock flex.

Truth: Ohlins are a HUGE difference, but they do NOT transform a GS into a sportbike. If you want a sportbike, buy a sportbike.


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No wallow or twitchiness in the front end anymore. For instance, a moderate 55mph sweeper on the interstate at 85mph is extremely sure footed even with buffeting from other vehicles. If you are a non-aggressive rider, it might not be that dramatic for you. You feel the road with Ohlins. I wouldnt describe it as a smooth, isolated ride. It's a tight, confident precision feel: a little stiffer, with lightning fast rebound recovery and non jarring but accurate compression for the conditions.

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No denying the improvement of Ohlins. It is quite a big improvement. However I do need to point out that IF one were to stiffen the bike up to the point of being "sportbike" like in handling, then the bike would be near useless Off-Highway.

Ohlins on the GS improves the ride in all categories, from road to off-highway to gravel and rocks. Ohlins gives better control and confidence in every aspect of the ride.

But it won't turn a GS into a sportbike.

(I wish it would...but then it wouldn't be a GS anymore!)
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